Impossible to win map: Fictional maps /Surprise attack

[xXalexc925Xx]

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Age of fantasy
fictional maps

Surprise attack

Correct me if I'm wrong
The objective of this map is destroying the Orcish camp. With the chivalry. We have one missionary, two light cavalry, two knights and one heavy knight.
Now the light cavalry do one of damage to the buildings and most of the units enemies, the knights are better, do 7 of damage to the buildings and 9 to the infantry and the heavy knight do 9 of damage the infantry to buildings and do 12 of damage the infantry.
So, if we add all the damage to the buildings and we say that the missionary gives him the ability to attack twice in the same turn to heavy knight of the unites which is impossible because there is no room for everyone to attack in the same turn we have 36 of damage to a building. One Orcish Camp have 40 of Hp and the level say you need to destroy all the Orcish Camp in less 4 turns to have the three stars. Not to mention when enemies attack you that kill you for maximum two turns

[Alexander82]

maybe the map maker might add a few more units or could pump the stats of the one given

[Alexander82]

On second thought maybe we should wait until we have increased all the building's hp so we can change that map only once.

[xXalexc925Xx]

And that will be with all the other maps?

[Midonik]

Wait it definitely was fine when I made it.

Has there already been any change to the buildings' hps?

[xXalexc925Xx]

in this case not but from the cavalry to do damage to the buildings, a lot of

[xXalexc925Xx]

Midonik your link dosen't work.

[Alexander82]

cause sometimes there is a issue to the board and it uses an alternative address

[Midonik]

in this case not but from the cavalry to do damage to the buildings, a lot of

Sorry but your grammar is so bad that I can't understand what you want or say.

Anyway, the orc camp's hp was definitely changed cause now it in fact is impossible.

So Alex, that hp is gonna change again?

(If you think about it, that change it definitely gonna break even more maps)

[makazuwr32]

Hp will definately change later, during buildings update.
We are going to unify hps of all factories (it is weird when humabs have factory with 270 hp and tons of armor while elves/undeads have o most of their factories 20 hp).

Most factories will become more tough (90/100/110 hp they'll have). Some races could also have techs to give bonus armor to buildings. There won't be alas ANY techs to increase buildings' hp (and existing ones will be changed into different ones).

Ofc fortifications and megas will become tougher as well.

[Midonik]

Once that is done I will just use triggers to decrease the hp of the buildings in the map.

@xXallexc925Xx if you're going around testing maps then can you test the Death Lair map in the Sveaja rise: Epilogue? I'm not sure if the triggers there work how I intended.

[xXalexc925Xx]

Of course I will try it. But where is it because in fictional maps I don't see it

[Midonik]

Well it was just recently added in the public version, if at all.

It's just that the triggers behaved wierdly when I was testing it so I'm a little worried if it actually works. I spent too much time making it. I can't even play it myself cause I've played the first 30 turns or the map like 20 times

[Huttensohn]

I have a different issue. It is possible to destroy the camps now, but if you move your knight 2 to upper left corner, you don't win. Btw, it says, move your heave knight to that corner although you have atm 2 heavy knights. Really confusing to new players and potentially frustrating..

[Midonik]

Did... Someone else edit my map? I remember putting only one heavy knight and the triggers working.

[Huttensohn]

It is interesting because above, somebody is speaking about light infantry and so.
You have - one missionary, two heavy knights, a Knight 2 and two normal knights. Maybe that messed with the triggers!

[Midonik]

They must have. And now they need to fix it - the fixes on my own maps do not show up for me, so I still see the map as it was.

[Midonik]

Tho I guess if you told me I can reproduce that.

[Huttensohn]

Do you need anything further from me?

The question is if the scenario is now again too easy, once the trigger is fixed. In the description it should clearly say which knight has to move where.

But once factories have more HP, this will change one more time and the question is if cavalry will be able to do enough damage to those structures then.

[Midonik]

Yea. Actually isn't the hp update next update? I guess I will wait. I would be grateful if you could list hostile units if possible - not sure if any changes were made.

[Huttensohn]

So the initial units are like in the description. Four camps, four wagons, two orc warriors, a goblin spearman and a goblin elite archer. The enemies bigger army consists of two additional orc camps (those don't have to be destroyed, right?) 10 Master armored warriors, 2 Elite Raptor riders, 1 harnessed raptor rider, 1 elite caragor rider, 6 uruk Hai 2.