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Experiences / Wisdom from AOW/AOS/AOF

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:25 am

Here i just start to list good advices for the new alternative as in other games we faced many and some of them still in because lack of time.
Images
- use 64px based tiles - as sometime in 32px we wanted a few more pixels to draw a detail
- use small infantry images, or squad images if you will have war machines and ships too (that is much bigger in real llife than a soldier)
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- make fairly good images for all units and techs at first, very hard to fix/polish images if they gets too many
Texts, references
- make the flavour text of units right when unit is ready and about to be jsoned (in AOF we have hundreds of units without texting and idk when will they be filled. (use \ before ' character inside texts)
- make unit Wikipedia references right when unit is ready and about to be jsoned (image + url) if we make a historical game (like in AOW all new units gets the wikipedia reference - see eg. German Tiger tank) - and also a pain to fill now on all existing hundreds of units.
Maps
- (almost) finalize terrains and decorations before making random maps, maps and campaigns, otherwise you will get many maps with not nice terrains that no one will remake later.
Game
- define "default" units (not buyable in upgrades) and upgrade units when you have a couple already, and always think of default/shopitem thing when a new unit comes (ask yourself: should it be default?) - upgrades are important to catch players, to give them "mission" to fulfil.
- keep track of used unit ID-s (and effect ID-s) there are files for them under the "ID" directory - make the in a sequene, dont make ID groups based on nations, unit types, came out it has no any use, and only a pain to find the good section on adding new id later (also ID length is limited as skins use same ID-s but writing 1000 or something before it so it should not run out from "integer".)
- be wise on setting ranges: in game most units (at least 50%) should be 1 ranged and only the other half should have range - dont make all units ranged - will kill most strategic element from game!
- Unit speeds: as the game itself is a slow game by its genre (being turn based not real time) we should not make games that are tiring or pain to play - So we need to set unit speeds about on minimum 3 tiles (only rare or exceptional units like artillery should have less speed)
- Unit sight: As the engine currently let players to move units within sight range (in FOG mode) we must not set smaller sight than the unit speed (movement range), otherwise the game gets slower to play and a pain to play. (there can be exceptions eg. if most units are ground/water units in an alternative than maybe very high speed planes can have smaller sight than movement, and maybe artillery type units too, but all other "marching" and advancing units should go at full speed always.



.. there will be many more i will list when comes to my mind. (maybe Endru and Alexander can help listing these 5cents)

these are only practical advices as i see very hard to fix things later (eg. missing textings).

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Re: Wisdom from AOW/AOS/AOF

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:11 am

infantry suggestion.

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Re: Wisdom from AOW/AOS/AOF

Post by Maxbirykov2004 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:16 am

Stratego (dev) wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:11 am
infantry suggestion.
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Re: Wisdom from AOW/AOS/AOF

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:42 am

is in topic starter post.

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Re: Wisdom from AOW/AOS/AOF

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:33 pm

- keep track of used unit ID-s (and effect ID-s) there are files for them under the "ID" directory

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Re: Wisdom from AOW/AOS/AOF

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:49 am

- be wise on setting ranges: in game most units (at least 50%) should be 1 ranged and only the other half should have range - dont make all units ranged - will kill most strategic element from game!

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Re: Experiences / Wisdom from AOW/AOS/AOF

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:03 am

updated this line:
- keep track of used unit ID-s (and effect ID-s) there are files for them under the "ID" directory - make the in a sequene, dont make ID groups based on nations, unit types, came ot it has no any use, and only a pain to find the good section on adding new id later (also ID length is limited as skins use same ID-s but writing 1000 or something before it so it should not run out from "integer".)

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Re: Experiences / Wisdom from AOW/AOS/AOF

Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:02 am

new lines:

- Unit speeds: as the game itself is a slow game by its genre (being turn based not real time) we should not make games that are tiring or pain to play - So we need to set unit speeds about on minimum 3 tiles (only rare or exceptional units like artillery should have less speed)
- Unit sight: As the engine currently let players to move units within sight range (in FOG mode) we must not set smaller sight than the unit speed (movement range), otherwise the game gets slower to play and a pain to play. (there can be exceptions eg. if most units are ground/water units in an alternative than maybe very high speed planes can have smaller sight than movement, and maybe artillery type units too, but all other "marching" and advancing units should go at full speed always.

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