heavy horse archer-ridiculously unbalanced. - IMPLEMENTED

[TheBluePhoenix]

The horse archer upgrade is just unbeatable at present.even halberdiers and heavy lancers are useless against it completely.they need heavy bonuses against it.and heavy archer upgrade pierce and armour bonus also need to be decreased

[Alexander82]

i think it's just a matter of bonus from the anti cavalry units. Armor and pierce were just 2 as far as i remember, just like other heavy cavalry

[TheBluePhoenix]

Yes maybe.
because i am playing a game against a multiplayer with a swarm of upgraded horse archers.he researched some armour techs and know my halberdier does only 2 damage on it! I mean whatever upgrade he may have , an anti cavalry unit of same level should atleeast reduce its health to half.
Dev reply soon else this will make this upgrade extremely op.at present , with fully researched armour tech the horse archer upgrade recieves-
-2 hp frm hb attack
-8 hp from heavy knight attack
-8 hp from heavy lancer attack
-8 hp from man of arms
Clearly the redns in hp should haave been about-
-13 hp
- 10hp
-13 hp
-10 hp
respectively

[Alexander82]

If they are fully upgraded it's normal that is hard to kill. It's probably a bonus issue.

[TheBluePhoenix]

As i said , even after upgrade a cavlry unit should be easily injured by an anti cavalry unit.it may be hard to kill but the unit should not become completely useless as is with halberdier.
Yea its a bonus issue. Halberdier should have at least 200% bonus against it.but even then he will be quite weak. I have suggested the approx. Damage that it should do after upgrade also( i have edited it)

[Alexander82]

We should balance anti cavalry to kill it in max 2 turns

[TheBluePhoenix]

Agree completely

[TheBluePhoenix]

Dev what do u think??

[Stratego (dev)]

this must be a bug in setting of the bonus - i will check.

[Stratego (dev)]

Halberdier anti cavalry bonus on heavy horse archer is fixed, up on server in 10! thanks!

[TheBluePhoenix]

What about lancer , heavy knight, man of arms? They are also very weak

[Stratego (dev)]

please give specific stat change suggestion. i can not get it from above written values. thanks!
also lancer bonus was also fixed with the halberdiear (all anty cavalry has been fixed)

maybe a hp decreasing on heavy horse archer? eg -5hp? and also having only 1/1 armors?

update: i saw that it had 2/2 armors but upgrading is not used to increase armors - so i removed all armors from heavy horse arher - is it ok now? (up on server in 10 minutes)

[COOLguy]

I think the heavy Lancer has +armors when he is upgraded form normal Lancers. Should we change that too?

[Stratego (dev)]

no, lancer originally had 2 armors as i see.

[COOLguy]

Oh okay.

[TheBluePhoenix]

Ok i will try it

[Alexander82]

Well, in that case i think it had some sense, being more armored than the original horse archer.

[Stratego (dev)]

was this discussion closed?

[COOLguy]

I am satisfied, and have not heard anything for a long time.

[TheBluePhoenix]

Well but it was not answered, it was implemented....