Fast Wagon OR Armored Wagon OR Big Wagon

[samuelch]

A strong ground transport with high pierce armor. This unit can transport 2 units and the units inside can attack. It doesn't give healing effect. It costs 6 turns and buildable by workers. So it's similiar to mantlet but with better mobility and more capacity.

[Sergej]

You will have a choise - +2 speed OR +3/3 defence + 20 hp OR +1 capaclity, but player must choose one of that upgrades, two other will be blocked. It's like skills system, you can choose only one upgrade.
Armor
Cost : 6
Research in : Blacksmith
Ability to build Armored Wagons

Better Wheels
Cost : 6
Research in : Blacksmith
Ability to build Fast Wagons

Volume
Cost : 6
Build in : Blacksmith
Ability to build Big Wagons

[Sunrise Samurai]

I like the idea, but there seems to be a preference for not making choices you can't undo later. Maybe make them separate units with those advantages over the basic wagon, but +1 cost and require the tech to build. That way, you can have different types as needed.

Alternatively, go with +1 speed, +1/1 armor and +10 hp, and +1 capacity as simple upgrades to the wagon that are able to be researched together.

[makazuwr32]

Agree with Sunrise Samurai.
Also i think that these improved wagons must be constructed (after research, different for each non-basic type) in either TC or Siege workshop.
Not by workers.

[General Brave]

I choose Siege workshops to build them.

[makazuwr32]

I mean in both like catapults but without ability to build by workers.
Also upgrades must be only in Siege workshop.

[Detros]

Agree with Sunrise Samurai.
Also i think that these improved wagons must be constructed (after research, different for each non-basic type) in either TC or Siege workshop.
Not by workers.

But still allow workers to build the basic wagons. Thus the tech will not upgrade the basic wagons but rather unlock the improved ones.

[General Brave]

So what is the stats for these wagons?

[makazuwr32]

Agree with Sunrise Samurai.
Also i think that these improved wagons must be constructed (after research, different for each non-basic type) in either TC or Siege workshop.
Not by workers.

But still allow workers to build the basic wagons. Thus the tech will not upgrade the basic wagons but rather unlock the improved ones.

Exactly.


My suggestion for stats:

1. Researches: Only in Siege workshop, indiviual for each type.

Armor
Cost : 6
Research in : Blacksmith
Ability to build Armored Wagons

Better Wheels
Cost : 6
Research in : Blacksmith
Ability to build Fast Wagons

Volume
Cost : 6
Build in : Blacksmith
Ability to build Big Wagons

2. Units:

Fast wagon:
Same stats of normal wagon but with 6-7 speed instead of 5 and 5 turns to build in both Siege Workshop and TC.

Big Wagon:
Same stats of normal wagon but with 4 units capacity instead of 3 and 5 turns to build in both Siege Workshop and TC.

Armored Wagon:
Same stats of normal wagon but with 3/6 armor, 35 hp and maybe even bit slower with speed of 4 and 5 turns to build in both Siege Workshop and TC.

[General Brave]

Seems good, I think. What do everyone think?

[Patrol3110]

We can make one more wagon, ban the catapults and trebuchets from other wagons and make a wagon that can carry any unit including siege machines.
ill say it should 1 capacity
hp 25 to 50(whatever you like)
dmg 1 to 3
cost 6
speed 3 to 5
sight : same as speed
tell me if i missed anything

[makazuwr32]

If as i suggested Artillery will have 2 forms:
For moving and for firing
than we can increase their speed and i think will fix several problems.
the only exeption for that are cannoneers.

[samuelch]

Any thoughts?

[makazuwr32]

1. This must be in different forum.
2. I don't like idea of mantlet with better speed and capacity.
3. We have several wagon ideas.

[COOLguy]

Please tell me so that I can merge

[makazuwr32]

http://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 2&t=5141