Bola Thrower

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Bola Thrower

Post by eafkcv » Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:21 pm

A Bola is a throwing weapon consisting of weights at the end of an elastic cord, commonly used to entangle the legs of an enemy.
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Cost 4
Hp 8
Attack 3
Range 1
Speed 3
Sight 4
Actions 2
Ability
Throw Bola
Timeout 1
Range 3
Reduce movement by 2
Cannot affect elephants
Decrease dmg -3
Decrease armor and p.armor values by -1/-2
Resisted by Hp
Builders Archery Range (and upgrade)
Categories Throwing, Foot
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Morningwarrior » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:06 am

You mean a gladiator weapon right?
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Badnorth » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:49 am

Not really. They were also used by many, not just the gladiators. Mostly for hunting to disable the prey. Bolas Wikipedia link - https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... hirMMN9VPc
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Badnorth » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:55 am

I think the entanglement should last for only a turn. They were easy to remove by humans, it was only a temporary disablement for humans, they targeted legs to make them hault on their tracks though I think this needs a miss chance? E.g. 7 per speed or smt. This only worked for men on foot I think, shouldn't work on elephants.
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Badnorth » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:21 am

Or maybe 2 turns. Dunno.

Bolas hurler.
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Hyuhjhih » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:43 am

It was used on infantry and cavalry alike.
It could last 2 turns i think. Or reduce cost to 2
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Hyuhjhih » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:47 am

The image looks great. You got some skill in there.
Do you actually think there is a need for a shield on his hands.they dont posses armours. And the bag on the shoulder is perfect. Great work QUADDY.
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Badnorth » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:03 am

Shields weren't always the thing for armor. Swordsman has a metal shield but no armor. It is just a visual representation of hp or so for unarmored units.Thus tis a wooden shield, light weight, easy to make and equip so it is not a big deal.

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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Badnorth » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:07 am

Updated.
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by SirPat » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:40 am

A more proffesional way to catch enemies unlike net throwers but bolas throwers effect should be diff from net throw

Bolas throw would:
Stop infantry
Can reduce cavalry movement by 1-3 cause itll take multiple bolas to stop a horse and cause most of the time itll just wrap around one-2 legs and connat affect an elephant
Decrease dmg -4
And decrease armor and p.armor values by -1/-2
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Badnorth » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:36 am

Category shouldn't be primitive imho, this was widely used by high class hunters too.
Im fine with it.
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by SirPat » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:41 am

Have you seen the bolas thower of aof i know they have one if you have aof can you please check what kind of effects does it do
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Badnorth » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:51 am

- 20 speed
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Badnorth » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:54 am

Timeout: 1
Rng: 2
Effect: -20 spd
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Badnorth » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:31 am

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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by eafkcv » Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:48 am

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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Endru1241 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:13 pm

In my eyes the whole proposition is just superior net thrower.
Which is quite balanced debuffer.
That clearly makes bola thrower op. Much too op.
The image is great though.
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by eafkcv » Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:51 am

Changed

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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Endru1241 » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:36 pm

Unfortunately removing any spec is impossible (including flying), so it cannot make flying units attackable by melee with full damage.
With -2 speed, -1/2 armors and maybe decreasing attack debuff to -3 it could have two actions (effect cumulative).
That would make it more unique.
Should be quite balanced with so weak hp and normal speed.
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Endru1241 » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:36 pm

BTW even if flying ban would be possible, it's kind of too restricting.
Unit shouldn't be saw as single being, nor as any specific number. It can be indicated, that speed decrease is average among the whole group (even if it counts one person), being represented as unit, in vague amount of time, being represented as turn.
Maybe attack/ability didn't hit all members of a group or someone got free earlier?
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Re: Bola Thrower

Post by Morningwarrior » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:00 am

Thower bola just affect foot units.in my opnion
Dmg:-3
Speed:-6
Def:-2/6
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