Horse archer third upgrade IMPLEMENTED

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Horse archer third upgrade IMPLEMENTED

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Elite horse archer(horse archer third upgrade).
HP:35
damage:7
Armor:2
Pierce armor:2
Speed:6
Sight:7
Range:7
Cost:4
Actions:1
The third upgrade of horse archer,more resistence,more speed,more fear for enemy.
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Just look at other archery upgrades.
7 range is reserved for longbow.
No ranged unit ever gets speed (only ballista, but it's siege machine).
Why would it suddenly get so much armor?

So if we'll be doing 3rd upgrade in the future, I'd say
33 hp, 1/0 armor, 7power. Rest of the stats the same as 2nd one. Just to survive base halbeldier/heavy lancer (without blacksmith, reach and auras).
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I suggest to follow rule of previous tier:
+6 hp, +1 attack (but mo range increase though). Since tier 2 didn't get any armor tier 3 also shouldn't.
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We should give defenders and halberds a third tier before upgrading horse archers.
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While I am not especially firm on the need of horse archer next upgrade - they would need at least crossbow-arbalest upgrade stats, thus melee armor and hp to at least survive unboosted halbeldier and heavy lancer (as arbalest survives heavy knight/hussar). Halbeldiers and defenders both definitely don't need an upgrade. Especially comparing to horse archers. Because they fill they role (defender has good armor and hp - stats on 3rd tier level and halbeldier could survive a little more, but his attack is cavalry bane - too strong if You ask me) and with cavalier pierce armor, 6 power becomes a little too less.
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this part of 6 damage i do agree to but the horseman archer's third upgrade should have at least 1 armor point and pierce armor
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Yeah. You are right ranged resilence gain should also be proportional to arbalest, so - 33HP, 1/1 armor, 7 power.
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Well is very equilibrate for the game i guess.
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Updated:horse archer third upgrade has been added.
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