Roman Mega Building
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Well if u can actually make the formation represent the real-war role properly in the game then y not?
Legionaries in-game individually r strong and move too fast to represent how a turtle formation worked in real war, and without turtle formation, roman siege offensive seems lacking, after all their shields were designed to represent the walls in a turtle formation slowly approaching the enemy city
Legionaries in-game individually r strong and move too fast to represent how a turtle formation worked in real war, and without turtle formation, roman siege offensive seems lacking, after all their shields were designed to represent the walls in a turtle formation slowly approaching the enemy city
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I got to fix it with spells in aod, having already done the pike formation, and line and square formation are coming soon...so it is possible to represent that kind of formations without adding a unit for a formation representation...
Well everything is up to endru...u know
Well everything is up to endru...u know
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I tried to follow the outline of the reference but it's kinda really hard.
Do I have to do a building inside? I think it's ok like this.
Do I have to do a building inside? I think it's ok like this.
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U can remove the rear walls and place some big buildings instead? Make it that walls go behind the buildings so cant b seen
There is no place for false kings here, only those who proves themselves to b the true kings of legend, or serves under me
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
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Rear walls?godOfKings wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:47 am U can remove the rear walls and place some big buildings instead? Make it that walls go behind the buildings so cant b seen
If you're talking about the buildings in the walls, I added it there because I need to add the elevator like things in the middle of walls.
I can still put buildings inside but im not sure if I can make it that it make sense.
I could also make it like the big castle ingame but I'm not sure if that is a good decision.
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Updated it
Added some buildings
Added some buildings
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i think it is fine
we just need the building-in-process to implement it (maybe i am being too opthymistic)
i think stats should be
name: roman fortress
cost 20-14 (pre-after ambidextria)
hp 650
attack 7 (burning arma)
range 6
armor3
pierce armour 10
speed 0
sight 7
mending rate 10
we just need the building-in-process to implement it (maybe i am being too opthymistic)
i think stats should be
name: roman fortress
cost 20-14 (pre-after ambidextria)
hp 650
attack 7 (burning arma)
range 6
armor3
pierce armour 10
speed 0
sight 7
mending rate 10
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Just tried something else.
Fitted two garrisons inside.
Fitted two garrisons inside.
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what else is needed to get this implemented? what else will u implement for roman faction?
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Well, we need something special to be trainable/researchable there.
Additionally let's think which units from castle can also be trained here.
I really wish for some image for scorpio.
Construction images would be great too, but that is not strictly required.
Additionally let's think which units from castle can also be trained here.
I really wish for some image for scorpio.
Construction images would be great too, but that is not strictly required.
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i thought that, since rome had a good development in medicine we could include that tech and a new roman healer called "physician" (maybe 2 turns) i posted about some roman techs here http://ageofstrategy.net/viewtopic.php? ... 399064ddf4
as i said, keeping production for this structure for only ancient units/techs would fit very nice...so no treb, no cannon, actually,, i think there is no unit/tech from castle that would fit a roman structure...
in addition, production of ancient ships would fit too, so roman structures are more viable and flexible
as i said, keeping production for this structure for only ancient units/techs would fit very nice...so no treb, no cannon, actually,, i think there is no unit/tech from castle that would fit a roman structure...
in addition, production of ancient ships would fit too, so roman structures are more viable and flexible
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Camel units?
Mameluke may be seen as general arabic camel warrior, not strictly from Mamelukes.
Mameluke may be seen as general arabic camel warrior, not strictly from Mamelukes.
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Wasn't there the three roman units ingame that can be made as not just map editor units?Endru1241 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:49 pm Well, we need something special to be trainable/researchable there.
Additionally let's think which units from castle can also be trained here.
I really wish for some image for scorpio.
Construction images would be great too, but that is not strictly required.
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Byzantines?
Or Etruscian?
The former fit more as hellenic and the latter would rather be weaker/less useful than regular roman units.
Or Etruscian?
The former fit more as hellenic and the latter would rather be weaker/less useful than regular roman units.
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Oh yeah and early roman three line units.
What I wrote about etruscian actually applies here more.
What I wrote about etruscian actually applies here more.
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The famous
Princepes
Triari
Velites and
Hastati
But yeah, addition of later byzantine troops to romans would be good.
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we have dromedarii
i tihnk dre means the pre-marian reforms units (hastati, princeps, triarii,velites)
i think rome needs 2 turn unints (celts, nordic and primitive have 2 turn units)
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so i think we can get back to my idea of having "marian reforms" tech to unlock auxiliars and legioinaries (making them stronger too to balance the fact that they require a tech)
hastati: 2 turns, hp 12, attack 5,armor 0/1, speed 3, similar bonus of spearmen
princeps: 3 turns, hp 22, attack 8, armor 2/2, similar bonus of swordman, javelin ability
triarii: 4 turns, hp 22, attack 8, armor 3,2, low anti cav bonuses
hastati: 2 turns, hp 12, attack 5,armor 0/1, speed 3, similar bonus of spearmen
princeps: 3 turns, hp 22, attack 8, armor 2/2, similar bonus of swordman, javelin ability
triarii: 4 turns, hp 22, attack 8, armor 3,2, low anti cav bonuses
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I think I made it too small so I'm going to make it bigger though more game like.
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Looks pretty good
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Don't know if it looks better but now I was able to make it more on the same as my reference.
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Honestly - I think older image fits better.
Castra had very clear rules of construction and were quite big and wide.
Towers were only supposed to be extending over walls for shooting platform on regular intervals, but didn't have to be high.
Walls were very often only 1 story high, rarer two levels.
New image looks more medieval - higher and more compact, like a keep.
I am not sure if any castrum stativum had 3 story (8-9m+) high walls.
Castra had very clear rules of construction and were quite big and wide.
Towers were only supposed to be extending over walls for shooting platform on regular intervals, but didn't have to be high.
Walls were very often only 1 story high, rarer two levels.
New image looks more medieval - higher and more compact, like a keep.
I am not sure if any castrum stativum had 3 story (8-9m+) high walls.
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For me though, I want it to appear bigger for the game because the other one just look too small.
Though of course I sacrificed the realism and the scaling for a more game like image.
The wall on the gate part on the new image isn't necessarily high like 2 story. I just noticed that the walls on the gate part is always higher that's why I tried to recreate it.
Though of course I sacrificed the realism and the scaling for a more game like image.
The wall on the gate part on the new image isn't necessarily high like 2 story. I just noticed that the walls on the gate part is always higher that's why I tried to recreate it.
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Wait, that I noticed.
Why did I put some windows on the lower walls?
Removed it
Why did I put some windows on the lower walls?
Removed it
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i agree with endru, it looks m,edieval...
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did u take this as reference?
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Could be 96x96 image for 3x2 unit, but 3x3 size is too disadvantageous, I am afraid.
We don't have to keep scale in buildings (many of them are already not really scaled to each other properly).
More important is to somehow represent, be a symbol.
And fit to the rest with overall concept (e.g. perspective).
Looking good is secondary.
We don't have to keep scale in buildings (many of them are already not really scaled to each other properly).
More important is to somehow represent, be a symbol.
And fit to the rest with overall concept (e.g. perspective).
Looking good is secondary.
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agree, it has to resemble roman culture...
btw @Endru1241 what aobut pre marian reforms units?
btw @Endru1241 what aobut pre marian reforms units?
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As for hastati, princeps, triarii - I have been thinking about different stats - the ones written along with random production idea (not sure in which topic).
Mainly to not change legionaries too much (or none at all, depending on idea).
Little changes would have to be applied to update it, as I think 3 turn legionary unit is the way we should go.
Mainly to not change legionaries too much (or none at all, depending on idea).
Little changes would have to be applied to update it, as I think 3 turn legionary unit is the way we should go.
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