Companion Cavalry IMPLEMENTED

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Elite Macedonian Cavalry.

Cost:5
Hp:35
Attack Power:14
Range:1
Armor:2
Pierce Armor:2
Speed:6
Sight:5

[LordOfAles]

Pierce armor 2,or normal armor 2?

[LordOfAles]

Btw like the idea,but makes me resemble a hussar,so i guess he should have spear instead of sword?

[Morningwarrior]

Description: Heavy cavalry of Macedonia, possessing great strength and ability, their highest priority is to protect the king and in battle to defend their companions, the companion cavalry or hetairos formed the majority of the army of Macedonia in the kingdom of Philip 2 and of Alexander the Great.
Hp:42
Damage:13
Armor:3
Pierce armor:3
Speed:6
Sight:7
Cost:6 turns
Range:1
Efect:companion(this efect is only it works when 2 or more companion cavalry stay close each other and this bonus increase the damage by 1 and speed by 1,range to this passive skill is 5)
+50% damage vs infantry,archers and siege machine.

[Endru1241]

Too much speed, too cheap.
Ability propably impossible to implement ( I cannot think of a way)

As it's heavy cavalry speed should be 5.
With this stats + 50% convert resistance (I'm assuming they were pretty loyal) and no ability they could be cost 6.

[makazuwr32]

Actually about ability - it is easy to code it:
Aura with range 5 on this unit that affects only these units. Alas i think range should be lower - 2 or 3.
Attack bonus can be higher but no stacking (or 2 different auras - for speed, non-stackable, and for attack, stackable).

Look onto roman legionare to get how to make it.
Auras maybe could be locked behind tech alas.

And definately speed 5.

[Endru1241]

By impossible i ment the part where therehave the be at least 3 units.
Speed boost is too op.
But they easily could get + dam + def aura.

[makazuwr32]

I think +1 speed is fine if it won't be stackable with themself.
For example you have 5 those guys but only 1 instan e of +1 speed effect is applied to everyone, not 4 instances.
That and speed 5 at base will make this not so op

[Endru1241]

I know we are talking about non-stacking. Still - it would be 6 speed heavy cavalry by itself.
What's the purpose of specialized speedy units then?

[makazuwr32]

You need at least 2 such units to gain speed 6.
+They cost more.
Specialized heavy units on the ither hand will have less cost and maybe better stats.

Also i want these guys not be affected by blacksmith.

[Endru1241]

Still it doesn't fit. I would rather give them aura range 3 with +2 power +1/0 armor (they were shock cavalry) stacking.
Any 6 speed unit existing right now has either or both low hp, low melee armor.
Potential use of fast defensive unit as tc occupier is dangerous for the balance.
Especially when they one-shot one of their counters.

[Morningwarrior]

Errrr,ok but my ideia is possible to implemented,without 6 speed,6 turns and companion aura?
Speed going to 5
5 turns to make
No companion aura,(speed not up,but damage and pierce armor up to 1 point)
Better no?

[Endru1241]

No. Aura can be implemented - I just misinterpreted Your description.
The stats actually don't convince me.
As I read about it - historically hetaroi were shock cavalry (one of the first ) indeed and used such tactics. But they had no shields, so I think pierce armor should be lower. They were also not so greatly armored to have 3 melee armor. They must have had however superior horses (to execute proper xyston - spear charge). They were not used in frontal battle (it was hoplite job) - their attacks were mainly from flanks or rear. So I'll go back to the start - first post.
Why make him heavy and armored, when it's historically incorrect.
It should be medium cavalry, so my proposition:
hp 37, power 12, armors 2/0, speed 6, stacking aura giving +1 power with 3 range (only to other companion cavalry) and with cost 5.
(hussar counterpart - loses spell resistance, reversed armors, gets aura boosting power if more units and +2 hp to survive 7 attacks from archer, 6 attacks from crossbow)

[Morningwarrior]

Ok is really beter this stautus to companion cavalry.

[Morningwarrior]

Ok ok,now i thinking much better in the question of the magnefic companion cavalry...i dont left behind my mind.

[L4cus]

No. Aura can be implemented - I just misinterpreted Your description.
The stats actually don't convince me.
As I read about it - historically hetaroi were shock cavalry (one of the first ) indeed and used such tactics. But they had no shields, so I think pierce armor should be lower. They were also not so greatly armored to have 3 melee armor. They must have had however superior horses (to execute proper xyston - spear charge). They were not used in frontal battle (it was hoplite job) - their attacks were mainly from flanks or rear. So I'll go back to the start - first post.
Why make him heavy and armored, when it's historically incorrect.
It should be medium cavalry, so my proposition:
hp 37, power 12, armors 2/0, speed 6, stacking aura giving +1 power with 3 range (only to other companion cavalry) and with cost 5.
(hussar counterpart - loses spell resistance, reversed armors, gets aura boosting power if more units and +2 hp to survive 7 attacks from archer, 6 attacks from crossbow)

I like these stats. What is left to implement it?

[Endru1241]

Main unit image, indicator for formation.

[L4cus]

Main unit image, indicator for formation.

Something like wedge formation( is wedge the correct word?)

[Endru1241]

Main unit image, indicator for formation.

Something like wedge formation( is wedge the correct word?)

More like companion's own tactical support formation.

Regular wedge formation I plan to use as formation for all cavalry units.

[DreJaDe]

This may be a stupid question but how does the speed aura work. If I have 2 companion cavalry unit, won't only one of them will be able to use the speed aura? Like when I move the unit away from each other due to 6speed 3 space aura.

[Endru1241]

This may be a stupid question but how does the speed aura work. If I have 2 companion cavalry unit, won't only one of them will be able to use the speed aura? Like when I move the unit away from each other due to 6speed 3 space aura.

Another reason to not add speed.
But don't worry - I wasn't planning to.
It will only increase power - stackable +1-2 or nonstackable +3-4.

[L4cus]

This may be a stupid question but how does the speed aura work. If I have 2 companion cavalry unit, won't only one of them will be able to use the speed aura? Like when I move the unit away from each other due to 6speed 3 space aura.

Another reason to not add speed.
But don't worry - I wasn't planning to.
It will only increase power - stackable +1-2 or nonstackable +3-4.

I preffee non stackable 2-3
4 is too much

[Morningwarrior]

I do now i dont have any pixel image from him,someone have ability in this?

[Morningwarrior]

Recently i have changed some companion cavalry of macedonia.
Hp:33
Atk:9
Armor:2/1
Range:1
Sight:8
Speed:6
Time to produce:5
He have now 100% more damage to foot melle,archers and siege machine.

[L4cus]

Even lught cav have 7 sight, 8 its too much.
Stats could be fine deppending on where it is produced

[DreJaDe]

Here's an image

[L4cus]

I like it, maybe adding a cloak at his back would look more historycally accuarate

[DreJaDe]

I like it, maybe adding a cloak at his back would look more historycally accuarate

Here

Removed the team color belt for more visual in body armor also.

[godOfKings]

I think u should use a different colour for legs and shoe to make it not match with horse skin, use more contrasting colours

[Morningwarrior]

it's starting to take shape but I think he better use one more sword instead of the spear, but I think that at the time it was common to use spears on horseback, is at the artist's discretion.