Guerilla IMPLEMENTED

[Phantomstriker]

Like and shielder but with good speed
Stats
Cost 2
Hp 18
Damage 4
Armor 1/3
Speed 3
Sight 4
Heal bonus 1.0
Bonus siegue machine estructure and ships 100%
Mega buildings 500%
Siegue machine armoreds and structures 200%

[Hyuhjhih]

Like and shielder but with good speed
Stats
Cost 2
Hp 18
Damage 4
Armor 1/3
Speed 3
Sight 4
Heal bonus 1.0
Bonus siegue machine estructure and ships 100%
Mega buildings 500%
Siegue machine armoreds and structures 200%

Stats
Cost 2
Hp 12
Damage 4
Armor 0/3
Speed 4
Sight 6
Heal bonus 1.0
Bonus siegue machine and ships 150% (10)
Mega buildings 500% (24)
Siegue machine armoreds and structures 250% (14)

Might be better

[Phantomstriker]

Little but good change

[godOfKings]

Isnt a skirmisher better?

[Phantomstriker]

Isnt a skirmisher better?

Have diferents uses

[Badnorth]

Isnt a skirmisher better?

i think he is saying that this unit is like a melee skirmisher.
That has bonuses to buildings or smt.

[Phantomstriker]

Isnt a skirmisher better?

i think he is saying that this unit is like a melee skirmisher.
That has bonuses to buildings or smt.

Have bonuses against buildings for this im say that have diferent uses

[Endru1241]

What I see here is basically a scouting unit from barracks.
If we added some kind of bonus against skirmishers and archers it could be even more interesting.
But even without it, it could be fine addition.

On the other hand original idea seems to be more focused on being medium infantry, loosing some capabilities in exchange of protection against ranged attacks. But that could be achieved by other ways.
Stratego has some plans to bring dynamically added categories.
When that happens I plan to give swordsmen some ability (maybe after research - shield over head or something) to temporarliy loose power and/or speed in exchange of no bonus from archers and some p.armor.

[Phantomstriker]

What I see here is basically a scouting unit from barracks.
If we added some kind of bonus against skirmishers and archers it could be even more interesting.
But even without it, it could be fine addition.

On the other hand original idea seems to be more focused on being medium infantry, loosing some capabilities in exchange of protection against ranged attacks. But that could be achieved by other ways.
Stratego has some plans to bring dynamically added categories.
When that happens I plan to give swordsmen some ability (maybe after research - shield over head or something) to temporarliy loose power and/or speed in exchange of no bonus from archers and some p.armor.

Good idea an archers and trowers hunter best use make a stats pls

[Badnorth]

Mmm.. From what i've understood is this right?
Light Shielder
Produced at: Barracks, Towns.
Cost: 2
Hp: 13
att: 6
armor: 1/4
speed: 4
Sight: 5
Mental res: 0%
Bonuses:
80% Archers, Skirmishers
100% Buildings, Siege machines
Categories:
Light foot melee, Anti-archers.

and perhaps it could use an upgrade or two like the skirmisher unit has.

[Badnorth]

Light Shielder unit

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representing a guerilla

i haven't made a new unit in a while so it may look a little bad.

[Hyuhjhih]

I am sticking to this plan though

Stats
Cost 2
Hp 12
Damage 4
Armor 0/3
Speed 4
Sight 6
Heal bonus 1.0
Bonus siegue machine and ships 150% (10)
Mega buildings 500% (24)
Siegue machine armoreds and structures 250% (14)

Might be better

I think this unit have to represent a weaker but faster version of shielder.
The image you made is good (but as you mentioned, not at your actual potential) and i think it should be more like a swordsman with the worst shield of that era.

[Hyuhjhih]

This is how i made it . A light but remarkably wide wooden shield. A lightweight cutlass like sword. No helmet. light metal chestplate.

Tell me how and where i should give team color.

[Hyuhjhih]

Like this (too less exposed color and much ruthless stubborn bold)

[Hyuhjhih]

Or this (too vibrant and fancier)

[Badnorth]

I think this unit have to represent a weaker but faster version of shielder.
The image you made is good (but as you mentioned, not at your actual potential) and i think it should be more like a swordsman with the worst shield of that era.

thanks. In my case i made it to look as a cheap scout wearing a leather hood, team colored shirt and wielding a spear since spears are significantly easier to make than a sword.

[Badnorth]

Mmm, I dislike the pants one.

Perhaps Sleeves and shoes would fit better for yours.

[Phantomstriker]

Best use the shoes an a hat like team color a bandana

[Badnorth]

I think Light shielder needs upgrades. Like Skirmisher, he could have Elite and Master Version.
Shield will go from Wood to Reinforced Wood and finally to iron.

[Badnorth]

Light shielder elite and master upgrades.
Stats:
Light Shielder and upgrades.
Produced at: Barracks, Towns.
Cost: 2
Hp: 12(14)(16)
att: 6 (7)(8)
armor: 0/4(1/5)(2/5)
speed: 4
Sight: 5
Mental res: 0%
Bonuses:
80%(90%)(100) Archers, Skirmishers
100% Buildings, Siege machines
Categories:
Melee foot, Shieldbearer, Anti-archers.

Melee foot category so archers won't have bonuses against it.
What do you think @Endru1241?

[Badnorth]

This unit will be fun to use in campaigns as bandits.
Perhaps change name for this unit? I'd like it to be "Guerilla" a person who engages in irregular warfare especially as a member of an independent unit carrying out harassment and sabotage.

[Badnorth]

Upgrade Icons

[Morningwarrior]

The upgrades can be similar to man at arms?

[Badnorth]

The upgrades can be similar to man at arms?

For my suggestion, this unit's upgrades will go near to the Swordsman unit stats as max but they will have bonuses to archers and have armor.

[Phantomstriker]

perfect is already taking shape improvement of 6 shifts good images and the name can be a militiaman or a warrior, the truth is I'm not good with names

[Morningwarrior]

All right

[L4cus]

There is something rhat doesnt fit to me...
In spanish, skirmisher=guerrillero and guerrilla is the same as say guerrilleros (just plural) idk if didnt think about this, or u didnt know, or its just a matter of languages (maybe guerrilla is something else in english)...i would like an explanation (am i asking too much?)

[Midonik]

Guerilla combat is partizant, hit-and-run kind of warfare in English, and a guerrila is a unit fighting that way. Also a name of a formation where soliders stand in relatively large gaps and like one colour of the tiles on a chess board - used for searching, scouting, and for a bit as a combat formation in ww1.

[L4cus]

ohhh so it was a traslation stuff...
thanks

[Endru1241]

That is actually quite close.
This name is coming from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare, while original skirmisher from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skirmisher.
As you can see in articles - it actually sounds like a bullshit, because guerilla warfare contains skirmishing as one of battle tactics.
But the essence is that:
Skirmisher - a unit using tactics of harassment, mostly with ranged attacks. Heavily dependant on terrain protection, very widely spread formations and avoiding the battle.
Guerilla - a unit using hit-and-run, ambushes - mostly with direct melee attacks and only some short ranged attacks, mainly right before going through enemy unit. Concentrated more on preserving organisation and some armor, while keeping unit as fast as possible.