Varangian on roman garrison

[DreJaDe]

It is quite famous how the roman empire employed the varangians to protect their emperor.

Or am I mistaking it and varangians and Lagrangian guards are different?

Anyway, the suggestion is to put them in roman garrison even just for flavor.

[L4cus]

maybe for bizantine factory? i think it fits better, current roman units LOOK more focused on republic-early empire period

[Endru1241]

It is quite famous how the roman empire employed the varangians to protect their emperor.

Or am I mistaking it and varangians and Lagrangian guards are different?

Anyway, the suggestion is to put them in roman garrison even just for flavor.

Varangians only started appearing around 9th-10th century.
So I have no idea how would roman empire existing up to 5th century ever employ them.

maybe for bizantine factory? i think it fits better, current roman units LOOK more focused on republic-early empire period

There is no byzantine units producable in game, not to even mention factory.
And I seriously wonder if it should have it's separate faction/factory/culture or be bundled together elsewhere.

Still dependant on legionaries, employing various auxilary units.
Rome easily represents late empire, up to the split.
We lack some mercenary cavalry of the period, trainable in roman garrison though.

[DreJaDe]

Wait
So the roman empire and the byzantines are different?

I thought they are just the same.

[L4cus]

It is quite famous how the roman empire employed the varangians to protect their emperor.

Or am I mistaking it and varangians and Lagrangian guards are different?

Anyway, the suggestion is to put them in roman garrison even just for flavor.

Varangians only started appearing around 9th-10th century.
So I have no idea how would roman empire existing up to 5th century ever employ them.

maybe for bizantine factory? i think it fits better, current roman units LOOK more focused on republic-early empire period

There is no byzantine units producable in game, not to even mention factory.
And I seriously wonder if it should have it's separate faction/factory/culture or be bundled together elsewhere.

Still dependant on legionaries, employing various auxilary units.
Rome easily represents late empire, up to the split.
We lack some mercenary cavalry of the period, trainable in roman garrison though.

Let the mercenary cav to me i will make sure to find a good one

[DreJaDe]

Let the mercenary cav to me i will make sure to find a good one

Numidian Cav?

[L4cus]

Numidian cav, thracian cav, celtic cav all those are light cavalry options, even iberian calavry is a good option like cantabrian cavalry who inventwz the cantabrian circle tactic...
For heavy cavalry we have the reknown galic cavalry, socii equites extraordinary or campanian cavalry, scythian lancers as well...
I had an idea of adding mercenary african elephant...as heavy mounted mercenary it is another option...
There were more but the most known/hired wrre those i think...scythians were more often hured by greeks, dacian as well were hired by them...

[Endru1241]

Wait
So the roman empire and the byzantines are different?

I thought they are just the same.

From cultural standpoint - they are different.
East part of empire was more hellenic or hellenic/roman hybrid.

From historical/political standpoint it's debatable.
Some would claim direct continuation was Byzantine Empire, others would argue, that western europe got hold on the emperror title.
Meanwhile totally independent 3rd force started to play cards - supposed imperial religious authority in the name of the Pope.
So it's pretty complicated who hold most solid claim.
But imho Roman Empire just ended and all those were descendants of different parts/authorities of the Rome.

[makazuwr32]

From my personal point of view Byzantine empire is at the same time is continuation of Roman empire and not.
Points why it is:
1. Late Roman empire's actual capital was Byzantine;
2. Byzantine emperor had blood of one of the latest Rome emperors.
Points why it is not:
1. Roman empire division into east and west is result of creation of Byzantine empire, and one of reasons why this division began was division in Christianity into Catholics and Orthodox;
2. Culture wise — Roman empire, with exception of late one, is not christian but pagan while Byzantine empire was Christian (orthodox Christian but still).

But for aos i'd say Byzantine units should not be part of roman units. Not at base at least.

After some research maybe you may train Byzantine units in roman garrison though. Or maybe instead Byzantine may have its own building with some roman units.