Why are you Hitting yourself - Map Help ANSWERED

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mkmunnabhai9
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Why are you Hitting yourself - Map Help ANSWERED

Post by mkmunnabhai9 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:27 pm

I think dev is joking with us

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Re: Puzzle map. Why are you hitting yourself. Has anyone done it

Post by DreJaDe » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:03 am

mkmunnabhai9 wrote:
Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:27 pm
I think dev is joking with us
It's not the Dev that made it but me.

I've finished my maps before I sent to the Dev.

The three version should all be rather easy as you only need to wait for the last hit.

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Post by Hyuhjhih » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:59 am

A little help: even though each difficulty is looking similar to one another, it needs a different tactics each. Because, the order of placement is so crucial and critical so as to maximize the hit and counter as well as keeping it alive. It nearly took me 20+ tries to complete each hardest ones.

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Post by Endru1241 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:06 am

I only won 1st one.
Lost tha patience seeing the same, but multiplied (so longer and harder with potentially more restarts) on 2nd map.
Map is relying quite heavily on precise control - up to every move.
As damage is always 1, every unit can attack or get attacked 10 times total. Once having 2 hp it can only be used against enemy, which will be finished in this turn. Once having 1 hp only as a finishing attack.
Additional knowledge, that helps (or even is required to finish it) is that AI always attacks first if ut can (has target in range), then moves. There is also a thing, that it always tries to finish unit (higher priority if hit will kill).

I tried to concentrate my attacks to finish some enemy units asap to increase control over battlefield, but it probably isn't right solution, as I only got 2 stars.
Tried to get right one few more times, but there is always one move, that immidately after taking you see it was wrong (bad position, so that you won't reach enemy next turn in this case).

One thing that requires some attention (and a reason why I hate such maps) is that any change in AI decision algorithm could destroy the good solution. So someone has to replay such maps from time to time to check if they are still doable (in time).

One more thing - I am not sure if it's only when modifying maps, but I noticed (in AoF, but engine is the same), that when object is destroyed condition sometimes misbehaves lately (launches trigger on wrong unit killed). Please check carefully if you loose only when your unit is destroyed.
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Post by godOfKings » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:46 am

I got 3 stars in the first 2 maps, basically i place each spearman next to each enemy spearman and let them atk each other, only wen the spearmen have 2 hp i dont atk, but let enemy spearmen atk, so wen they have 1 hp i can kill all the enemy spearmen without counter atk in one turn
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Post by godOfKings » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:49 am

However i think the swordsman 3rd map is impossible
There is no place for false kings here, only those who proves themselves to b the true kings of legend, or serves under me

For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools

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Post by mkmunnabhai9 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:06 am

Thanks for this many reply. A puzzle always looks impossible before you know the answer. Thanks to the puzzle maker. I love puzzles. Now that i know somebody has done it, i will do it too.

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Post by mkmunnabhai9 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:24 am

Did the first one in 8 turns. :D

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Re: Puzzle map. Why are you hitting yourself. Has anyone done it

Post by DreJaDe » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:56 am

godOfKings wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:49 am
However i think the swordsman 3rd map is impossible
Though I might've forgot how to finish it. It's definitely doable.

To my surprise, some players even finished 5 turns less than mine.

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Re: Why are you Hitting yourself - Map Help ANSWERED

Post by mkmunnabhai9 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:00 am

Yes there's a new unit so i have to try a few times to know what it can do. Just now i learned it can die, and you still can play.

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