PRI#? Summoned Ent changes IMPLEMENTED

[makazuwr32]

Hmm, well, we could do a quick update to elves spell caster's.

But not major one were I have to make 50+ spells, those take some time so:

Apprentice
Sorceress
Woodshaper
Druid
could get a slight update to they're spells.

I guess same goes for some undead casters as well.
And maybe orcs too so we don't have any of this copy paste crap.

So should i prepare everything planned for them?
We will discuss than what we can implement now and what leave for magic update.

[Stratego (dev)]

is here any consensus?

[makazuwr32]

Working on changes for ents already.

[Stratego (dev)]

i mean "is here any consensus?"
meaning any way that all agree
(so not ment if is there any planning for later)

[Savra]

We have a ready solution for it, but I'm going to need to finish up rebalancing some of there caster's also with this.

[Stratego (dev)]

it has been alsmost 1 month and we have not changed, if it sa balance problem, please suggest a quick change.

thanks!

[makazuwr32]

It is worked upon already by savra.

[Stratego (dev)]

same answer here: can be too late, as he not even has assets to modify.

but wait is it confirmed?
@Vladneral what u think about ents here? is there balance problem?

[makazuwr32]

4. Woodshaper:

Changes to abilities:
Bark skin — gives +2/+2 and +1/+1 ×Spell power extra armors (both)
Give him summon spriggan, summon treant and summon ent abilities (summon ent is removed from sorceress).

Spriggan:
Vanishing 4, cooldown 3
Hp - 50
Attack - 21
Armor - 0/10
Speed - 3
Sight - 5
Spell resist - 0%

No bonuses.
Is affected by nature tech and ent toughness techs

Dendroid:
Vanishing 5, cooldown 4
Hp - 140
Attack - 21
Armor - 2/14
Speed - 2
Sight - 4
Spell resist - 0%

Standart infantry melee bonuses.
Is affected by nature tech and ent toughness techs.

Ent:
Vanishing 6, cooldown 5
Hp - 320
Attack - 36
Armor - 4/16
Speed - 2
Sight - 4
Spell resist - 0%

Has same as Ent Warrior bonuses.
Is affected by nature tech and ent toughness techs.

Tech costs:
Spriggan summoning — 2 turns
Dendroid summoning — 3 turns
Ent summoning — 4 turns

We even have images ready for those so only what is required is to json that properly.

[Stratego (dev)]

Ent:
Vanishing 6, cooldown 5
Hp - 320
Attack - 36
Armor - 4/16
Speed - 2
Sight - 4
Spell resist - 0%

wait i already needed to undo this exact change about ents.
so i am afraid this will not be welcomed from players if we make it again!
i dont remember who was against it or not.
but i dont see eg. @Vladneral ideas.
lets wait Vlad's thoughts here.

[makazuwr32]

it is required since this unit will be given as summon to woodshaper instead of current sorceress.

[Anchar]

Mmm... Woodshaper?

[makazuwr32]

yes. as stated above.

4. Woodshaper:

Changes to abilities:
Bark skin — gives +2/+2 and +1/+1 ×Spell power extra armors (both)
Give him summon spriggan, summon treant and summon ent abilities (summon ent is removed from sorceress).

We even have images ready for those so only what is required is to json that properly.

[Anchar]

Although... probably there is no difference?

It's just that woodshaper already has a lot of useful abilities in my opinion, but the wizard will lose a lot.

After all, summoning was the only unique ability of the wizard. After that, he may stop being used since the wolf shaman and other cheaper magicians have all his skills.

[makazuwr32]

Sorceress will get her own very unique set of spells.
No summons but...

Sorceress:
Make her trainable in tc
Spell power — 3+3
Spell range — 3+3

Spell list:
Remove healing aura
Replace disenchant with purge spell
Magic missile
Thunderstorm
Replace clear vision with "enchanted projectiles" spell — lasts for 2 turns, gives +spell power extra attack and +2×spell power extra power base to target thrower or shooter, no cooldown
Replace summon ent with "enchanted armor" spell — gives +6 +spell power extra piercing armor (no extra melee armor though), lasts 2 turns, no cooldown
Slowing
Disarmor
Invisibility — gives unit -1 speed and makes unit invisible for 5 turns, invisibility is broken when unit uses action or attacks, cooldown 4 turns, initial cooldown

I'd say +9-12 p.armor, +3-6 attack to throwers/shooters (for shooters stacks with clear vision and tower vision effects) and invisibility to others will be much more wanted to use than this summon ent.

Purge will be shared with apprentice.

[Savra]

Actually we have a new spell list for her too, that will be quite useful.

Just no images yet, since we're currently working on orcs ones fist to get them done and over with.

[Vladneral]

As i get that ents summon will be behind the tech so seems it is fine.

[makazuwr32]

Yes. It will not be that costly though — 2/3/4 turns so 9 turns to get max ent and all 3 summons.

[Stratego (dev)]

Ent summoning — 4 turns

ok, for now i make only the Ent summon locker tech so ent summoning will be after a tech.

is it good as a quick fix?