Roman Vexillarius IMPLEMENTED

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Roman Vexillarius IMPLEMENTED

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Roman standard bearer (Signifier) or eagle symbol bearer (Aquilifer).

Like centurion, but cheaper, foot unit with roman aura boost (without morale boost).

I am adding parts of layered image, that I used for Aeanator.
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Roman Aquilifer

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We can retake the roman aquilifer idea
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Example:
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Btw. From wikipedia:
"Archaeological and literary sources indicate that standard bearers wore mostly bear furs and sometimes lion furs."

And standard could be used instead of a banner:
"It had a number of phalarae (disks or medallions) along with a number of other elements mounted on a pole. The pole could be topped with a leaf-shaped spear head or a manus (open human hand) image denoting the oath of loyalty taken by the soldiers."
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reminds me to a book i read long ago, will send some shots when i get home
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i found that if the signifier got lost (vexillarious was some kind of special rank between signifier) then the entire legion would get dishonored...
could this be represented as a debuff in the near units?
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If I could possibly lose that unit in combat and let my units be debuffed, then why should I train that unit in the first place? Or maybe just give it lots of aura range so he can boost more units to let him die less. Idk
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huge advantage at such risk...
like +3 attack, +2/1 armour, +100% CR (5 range aura)
and if killed, -2 attack, -1/1 armour -50% CR (5 range aura, 3 turns)
so u could just put him in a siege tower or a ram and let it buff ur units (kinda op now that i think about it...)
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Yeah very op


How about Normal buffs but when killed gives a debuff that lasts for like 7 turns?
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Hold your horses.

Triggered can only be unit effect (effect affect - only stat changes), not full one.
We also don't have on death trigger (only on kill).

Besides if we wanted to include morale loss - I am pretty sure there are cultures much more fitted to this, e.g. some Asian ones, like japanese.
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well yeah, then jsut

cost 3
hp 14
attack 4
range 1
armour 1/1
speed 3
sight 4
CR 100%

aura: legion command
range 6

aura: legion eagle
range 3
attack +2
CR +20%
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Interestingly, I was also with this idea of ​​implementing units of nations that are exclusively for moral support, not limited to banner beard or standards, in addition to a Roman flag bearer was extremely respected and protected since he was the representation of the Roman legion , to get an idea of ​​how proud they were of the flags, they carried out military campaigns exclusively to retrieve them from enemy hands
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L4cus wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:27 pm well yeah, then jsut

cost 3
hp 14
attack 4
range 1
armour 1/1
speed 3
sight 4
CR 100%

aura: legion command
range 6

aura: legion eagle
range 3
attack +2
CR +20%
this legion eagle passive should only be for the roman melee units, since the archers if they had a bonus like that would be very appealing, mix high morale and legion command of the centurion already and +2 attack adds more +2 already and 4 and the sagittarius and auxiliary archers have 6 attack power, dealt 10 damage in total plus bonuses against light and medium infantry, even with legion missile tactics, pretty strong and broken for the game, maybe, why and what is expected but it may not be as strong as I said,but do not discard this ideia.
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For range also looks ok to me.

I mean, no one uses roman archers anyway and for obvious reasons. This might really help them get their time to shine.

Maybe just plus 1?
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My try on it
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Looks like a dog imo. Maybe add a mane
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SirPat wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:14 am Looks like a dog imo. Maybe add a mane
Close.

It's a wolf or wild dogs. Either of the two.
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Oh, I thought u were making the lion
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My attempt to lionize it.
Not sure how good or bad.
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utook his humanity away! he doesntlook like a person
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But it does look like a man in a lions head. So its good for me.
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@Stratego (dev) This one should be marked as "IMPLEMENTED".
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This guy always forgets to set his topic as implemented.
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