Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
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Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Gnomes are technologically more crazy and advanced than dwarves but before war they lived separately. In war they are mobilized as well now.
What they will have:
1. Golems (mechanical ones).
2. Air units; both zeppelins are moved here from main body of dwarven race.
3. Siege (superior to dwarven one).
4. Naval (superior to dwarven one).
5. Some land-moving fortified self defending moving fortress.
6. Support casters who can heal mechanical units, support your buildings and curse enemy ones.
Procs (+):
Mechanical units all are unaffected by many enemy spells;
Air units & air transport;
Superior siege units (even better in terms of damage than trebushet with higher speed and health but also with lower range);
Unique casters who can heal mechanical units and buildings, support them or instead debuff enemy buildings;
Cons (--):
All units are costly (4+ turns cost all);
Needs to be researched first;
Need separate buildings;
All units are producable only in factories/mega buildings;
All units are unaffected at all by dwarven blacksmith upgrades and they have their own line of upgrades (alas some of units are affected by gunpowder upgrades);
Mechanical units are unaffected by runes and support spells as well;
Many mechanical units are vurable to siege killers;
Some of their land units can't be transported via their zeppelin carrier.
What they will have:
1. Golems (mechanical ones).
2. Air units; both zeppelins are moved here from main body of dwarven race.
3. Siege (superior to dwarven one).
4. Naval (superior to dwarven one).
5. Some land-moving fortified self defending moving fortress.
6. Support casters who can heal mechanical units, support your buildings and curse enemy ones.
Procs (+):
Mechanical units all are unaffected by many enemy spells;
Air units & air transport;
Superior siege units (even better in terms of damage than trebushet with higher speed and health but also with lower range);
Unique casters who can heal mechanical units and buildings, support them or instead debuff enemy buildings;
Cons (--):
All units are costly (4+ turns cost all);
Needs to be researched first;
Need separate buildings;
All units are producable only in factories/mega buildings;
All units are unaffected at all by dwarven blacksmith upgrades and they have their own line of upgrades (alas some of units are affected by gunpowder upgrades);
Mechanical units are unaffected by runes and support spells as well;
Many mechanical units are vurable to siege killers;
Some of their land units can't be transported via their zeppelin carrier.
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
About units themselves i need to get approvement by @Alexander82 before i will post/repost them here.
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
@makazuwr32
@Savra What you think?
@Savra What you think?
"The smallest pebble was once the biggest stone, the biggest stone was once bigger"
Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Updated
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Looks nice.
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Not bad. Can be used as research image.
But still needs polishing.
But still needs polishing.
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Hmmm I was thinking flag/Banner
I don't think Alex said We had to use shields as a race flag
I don't think Alex said We had to use shields as a race flag
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
@Savra can you do the polishing?
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Can this be the basic gnome?
Also Note I need to change title name
And yes it needs polishing
Also Note I need to change title name
And yes it needs polishing
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Needs longer hat.
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Basic builder?
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Not the best but can be edited to look better
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Ugh. I don't like look of this "gnome". And also they won't have any "basic fighter" units because otherwise their stats would be worse than goblin pikers (basic one) and without upgrades.
Same is for worker.
And last thing i don't like look of them as garden gnomes with big hats. It will just look weird that garden gnomes (which are at most of size of cat) will fight with orcs.
Same is for worker.
And last thing i don't like look of them as garden gnomes with big hats. It will just look weird that garden gnomes (which are at most of size of cat) will fight with orcs.
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Umm no
One of the biggest things for gnomes ARE they're hats, that's how you can tell a gnome off first hand.
And 2 they DO fight and are pretty good at it.
Please don't call them gnomes if your gonna have a different concept that doesn't fit gnomes
One of the biggest things for gnomes ARE they're hats, that's how you can tell a gnome off first hand.
And 2 they DO fight and are pretty good at it.
Please don't call them gnomes if your gonna have a different concept that doesn't fit gnomes
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Ugh.
That i will close this topic if you all imagine gnome with these stupid hats.
Their golems you think will also have these hats?
Dwarves:
Gnomes:
That i will close this topic if you all imagine gnome with these stupid hats.
Their golems you think will also have these hats?
Dwarves:
Gnomes:
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
In normal fantasy lores gnomes NEVER have those stupid hats.
They look somewhat between dwarves and humans but with lesser height than dwarves. As you can see on the images i posted above.
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Golems are golems
Gnomes are gnomes
They need that hat unless you wanna see even smaller ppl ( smaller than dwarves ) on the battlefield which would look too weird
Gnomes are gnomes
They need that hat unless you wanna see even smaller ppl ( smaller than dwarves ) on the battlefield which would look too weird
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I don't want to see normal gnomes as fighters in the first place.
They are inventors, tinkers but not fighters.
They are inventors, tinkers but not fighters.
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Yea, I found some gnomes where they do just that
( tinkering )
( tinkering )
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Yea.
They can backpacks with some crazy things but please no those stupid childish hats.
They can backpacks with some crazy things but please no those stupid childish hats.
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I don't really like the idea of them not having them.
Without hats now your looking a super midget People on the battlefield.
The hats atleast it will compensate for their height
Especially the way the art design is made in Aof
Without hats now your looking a super midget People on the battlefield.
The hats atleast it will compensate for their height
Especially the way the art design is made in Aof
"The smallest pebble was once the biggest stone, the biggest stone was once bigger"
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And the hats represented various of things.
They aren't childish
They aren't childish
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Actually I've seen them with simple caps, they were ruffly the size of dwarves but with shorter, or no beards. Dwarves grow beards as children. So let's just stick with simple caps, like the peasant style.
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That's kool
I just don't want them to wear nothing at all
I just don't want them to wear nothing at all
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Note the one thing they all have in common. The ears.
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Re: Gnomish inventors - subrace for dwarves
Pixel art isn't gonna pick up ears
And are all those fan art?
And are all those fan art?
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I think they are D&D.