possible to win map: Histories /The Dwarven Invasion

[Stratego (dev)]

ok, please try it, i did similar - will not work imho

too many dwarves there

[Savra]

Ok, I messed up on one part, but if it wasn't for that one mistake I would have won.

Basically what I was doing was using the spearman to distract the dwarves, while I circled the cavalry behind the enemy, I kept the cavalry far enough from each other so the enemy would single their remaining units out to chase each individual unit, but I also kept them close enough so that when an enemy did come out of range of his allies I would gang my cavalry up on them.

I'll show images on how I did this.

[Midonik]

And that took 4 turns?

[Savra]

Btw, did you modify it so that the ai no longer stays in place waiting for a healer after they've taken a certain amount of damage?

Because if so, then the tactic I pointed out might not work. (As well)

[Stratego (dev)]

dunno, but can change anytime

[Midonik]

THAT would actually make some other maps impossible lol.
Tho I always thought it was dump in campaigns with no healers.

[DreJaDe]

Is it required? Maybe ill create later but ill give the third hint.

The 3rd hint involve doing the 2nd turn move but in the southern map.

4th turn is cleaning...

LOL, really is this really that hard to finish in 4 turns? And its one of the easiest part for me. Well im the creator after all. BTS when i created this, it took me an houd to finish this amd maybe 30+ tries because im not satisfied with 5 turns and theres also the miracle of your unit not dying which i just cant seem to repeat.

Edit: the vid is ready this took me 2 minutes to beat with some lags.

[Anchar]

Therefore, it is easy for you, because you know the algorithm as the one who created it. But a map with 30+ tries, I don't think it's average difficulty.

[DreJaDe]

Therefore, it is easy for you, because you know the algorithm as the one who created it. But a map with 30+ tries, I don't think it's average difficulty.

I guess

Btw this campaign is certified to still be completable

[Stratego (dev)]

i could not comlete - how can i? please show me - thanks!

[DreJaDe]

i could not comlete - how can i? please show me - thanks!

Ok here. Ill give the first map away.

Btw the 3rd map is the easiest one

https://youtu.be/lQ2i8U3S-bY

[Alexander82]

Maybe the solution is just to make more obvious the needed strategy.

[DreJaDe]

Maybe the solution is just to make more obvious the needed strategy.

Well i kinda give hints in the game.

I said the key to win this is the cavalry or smt in the map.

I also leave hints in the chat to the people who asked

People there actually get it and many completed it.

[Stratego (dev)]

i could not comlete - how can i? please show me - thanks!

Ok here. Ill give the first map away.

Btw the 3rd map is the easiest one

https://youtu.be/lQ2i8U3S-bY

awesome you are! thanks!

[Nsyion]

Watching the video, I don't understand why the dwarves that are able to go for you cav don't. At 1:00 you end turn 2 and the AI can easily kill your cavalry for a gameover. I also don'y understand why they don't deal bonus damage on counter when cav attack them.

[Anchar]

I think this is a feature of the AI, he prefers to walk up to the left. I used a similar strategy, but my extreme equestrian was killed by an extreme dwarf.

[DreJaDe]

I think this is a feature of the AI, he prefers to walk up to the left. I used a similar strategy, but my extreme equestrian was killed by an extreme dwarf.

Its just the abuse of ai attacking the closest for melee.

[makazuwr32]

Watching the video, I don't understand why the dwarves that are able to go for you cav don't. At 1:00 you end turn 2 and the AI can easily kill your cavalry for a gameover. I also don'y understand why they don't deal bonus damage on counter when cav attack them.

Bonus damage on counter if unit attacked also has it is ignored in case of cavalry and anti-cav units. To both sides (so if cavalry doesn't die from hit of pikeman than it will deal only halved base damage and vise versa).

[Anchar]

I want to say that I specifically did an experiment on this map, placing a cavalryman and a spearman in the strike zone, the dwarf always shifted towards the cavalryman.

[DreJaDe]

I want to say that I specifically did an experiment on this map, placing a cavalryman and a spearman in the strike zone, the dwarf always shifted towards the cavalryman.

Of course it would.

[Nsyion]

Bonus damage on counter if unit attacked also has it is ignored in case of cavalry and anti-cav units. To both sides (so if cavalry doesn't die from hit of pikeman than it will deal only halved base damage and vise versa).

Well ,that is very not-obvious and would explain why sometimes counter damage seems to get bonus and other times no. I don't recall it being mentioned in the tutorial but maybe I missed that. Good to know, thanks!

[Alexander82]

Bonus damage on counter if unit attacked also has it is ignored in case of cavalry and anti-cav units. To both sides (so if cavalry doesn't die from hit of pikeman than it will deal only halved base damage and vise versa).

Well ,that is very not-obvious and would explain why sometimes counter damage seems to get bonus and other times no. I don't recall it being mentioned in the tutorial but maybe I missed that. Good to know, thanks!

In truth the tutorial maps are extremely obsolete and after our biggest changes we'd like someone to help us with making a new set of tutorial maps.

[SeekTruth]

i could not comlete - how can i? please show me - thanks!

Ok here. Ill give the first map away.

Btw the 3rd map is the easiest one

https://youtu.be/lQ2i8U3S-bY

awesome you are! thanks!

OMG it really was possible! I watched this video. I swear i tried something like this myself several times, but i must have messed it up somehow. haha wow i am going to have no chance at all on the harder campaign maps. Thanks so much for breaking down and showing this to us. If i hadn't seen it with my own eyes i wouldn't have believed it was possible. really.

[Puss_in_Boots]

The method shown in the video doesn't work anymore.

[DreJaDe]

The method shown in the video doesn't work anymore.

Yeah, and cannot be completed in three stars at that.

The map is still completable though.

[Puss_in_Boots]

Found a strange occurrence on this map, when you move a spearman onto 2/8 (3 tiles down, 9 tiles right) victory is declared for player2 (the opponent)

[Puss_in_Boots]

Nevermind, it happens whenever a corpse is stepped on. I think it is a bug of modifying maps.

[DreJaDe]

Nevermind, it happens whenever a corpse is stepped on. I think it is a bug of modifying maps.

That's weird.

The only trigger I used in the map is a victory trigger when you lose at least 1 cav. There shouldn't be any case otherwise unless the normal win condition in the game is met.

[DreJaDe]

Yeah
Decided to finally make changes on the map but I can't because of this bug.

Can you fix this @Stratego (dev)

The bug is specific.
When you step on the corpse of the enemy in the map of the dwarven invasion. The enemy automatically win.

Only works when you try to modify and test the map by playing it.

Sometimes it takes stepping on 2 enemy corpse, then most is 1 for me.

[Stratego (dev)]

send me the fixed map and i put in so you can try in game.
yes in "mapedtor test" some problem with unit ID-s can cause this - i have yet found the bug as i remember.