Manticore Rider! The Gryphon Rider counterpart!

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The undead should probably Summoner the three headed dog instead.
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I wanted cerberus as demon's unique unit.
If you want some more units for undeads ask me just. i have plenty ideas for warcraft 3 and i can easily adapt them here.
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I thought you agreed the demons as a sub race to the undead.
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i didn't.
i just closed that race topic for some time.

Remember that i have at least 200 units and their upgrdaes ideas and if all of 'em add to undeads that for other races there would be just not so much place for new content.
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As i said earlier, it's not a thing to restrict only to living beings or not, otherwise, we would have to remove vampires and gargoiles from undeads for example, also while we don't have that demons faction, they shall stick on the undeads ;) ... Btt, in fantasy, It's a non natural creature, the manticoras arose when a king was cursed by the gods and became a manticore, so they do not have species reproduction or something natural alike, in comparison to these other beasts from beastfolk... They are created by curses or summoned in the same way of the Chimeras or Sphinx. With the purpose of deliver as much CAOS as possible...

It's stats can be much higher in fact, but for the sake of balance... That's what we have for now.

Actually since undeads don't only have undeads, change it's name to Chaotic fation or something. It will kill 2 birds with a single shoot...
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Shouldn't gargoyles be good, ain't they used to protect the churches.
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nono. undeads must be undeads. vampires also are considered as undeads in 95% of all games. gargoyles... well this is discussable because in MTG there is lots of Gargoyle variants. Zombies, soldiers, artifacts, wizards...
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It does not change the fact it does not belong to Beastlike or other factions beside undeads or that Demon faction... It borns artificially or from curses and does not have anything else related to other factions beside being a living abomination...
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That if we are going along with Tales, it seems most people are going with games instead.
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why not making an undead small dragon instead ??
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or an undead maticore?
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Maybe.
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Gral.Sturnn wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:00 pm why not making an undead small dragon instead ??
Bcz we already have bone dragon... And dragons aren't the answer to all the aerial problems. Maybe a zombie dragon, but thats a thing for another topic...
Gral.Sturnn wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:02 pm or an undead maticore?
Well, I never heard about undead manticores or seen that anywhere... I have no idea how it would be draw, but since it is already a hybrid creature, might work, i guess... i will search around to see it might fits...
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DoomsdayDragonfire wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:22 pm
Gral.Sturnn wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:00 pm why not making an undead small dragon instead ??
Bcz we already have bone dragon... And dragons aren't the answer to all the aerial problems. Maybe a zombie dragon, but thats a thing for another topic...
Gral.Sturnn wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:02 pm or an undead maticore?
Well, I never heard about undead manticores or seen that anywhere... I have no idea how it would be draw, but since it is already a hybrid creature, might work, i guess... i will search around to see it might fits...
a manticore but without skin just bone and black-ish colors, in warhammer fantasy they are called terrorgheist
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Actually, terrorgheist is a whole new thing, i liked the idea but does not resemble the manticore. It might be a good add to undeads actually...
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The closest undead version of manticore would be this...
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I don't think we need to make that Manticore truly undead
Bat wings, scorpion tail, lion body and human face(I would prefer lion face) makes Manticore something already
truly terrifying that could fit noone other than undeads
Im also wondering who will be riding this manticore?
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That definitely can work.
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DoomsdayDragonfire wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:51 pm Actually, terrorgheist is a whole new thing, i liked the idea but does not resemble the manticore. It might be a good add to undeads actually...
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The closest undead version of manticore would be this...
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Just realized it's a big bat.
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A skeleton pike man? Undead could use a mounted anti Calvary unit
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So do the humans which we are waiting for.
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Didn't someone make a image of the mounted pike man for humans? I gotta look again, but I think people just forgot about it
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It's the Griffon Rider.
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Ooooo ok. Pretty sure that wont be long until it gets implemented in game
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I could technically finish all the ready units, should I.
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Well, i made an ordinary lion, then transformed it on a ordinary manticore... But idk how to deadfy it, then i must fit some warrior on it after... But it is looking cool i guess...
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Can we see it.
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idk if i let the lion face or if i put the human one... Any toughts?
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Definitely do not put a human face on that, it's beautiful.
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