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Cog
Fusta
Galliot
galley
Galeas
Galleon
Naus
Caravel=)Square Rigged Caravel
Barque
Sloop
Fluyt
Schooner
Brig
Carrack
Barquentine
Frigate
Ironclad

If u have an idea about how upgrades should be, then post it
We need to focus on basic ships: galley, galeas, galleon, cog.
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lol i lied

I made an image for the galiot.

I think once later techs/time periods are unlocked it will have an upgrade that makes it slightly larger and armed with light cannons as that is how the Dutch and other navies ended up arming them
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By the way DreJaDe, can you resize some of the ships you have made, especially the galley and galleass, as right now they are all the same size as the galleon, while galleys were actually quite small. Maybe give them a more distinct shape too?

Also i attach a different version of the galiot
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I cant see the differences
Also, thats a good idea. Drejade we count on u
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The difference is just with the oars lol, i dont know which looks better
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The 2nd one
They dont need to have great details. We can think on it later
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Made more minor changes lol

Changed some more
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Squirrel5555 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:17 pm By the way DreJaDe, can you resize some of the ships you have made, especially the galley and galleass, as right now they are all the same size as the galleon, while galleys were actually quite small. Maybe give them a more distinct shape too?

Also a different version of the galiot
LOL, yes of course.

My problem about is the way to do it but i'll try thanks.
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Guys, I searched some things and I found out that many of English ships are Carracks and almost no Galleys.

Should we just remove the Galley from the British?
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Galleys and galleasses were mainly used in the mediterranean and american colonies while galiots were used in northern europe quite a bit
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Squirrel5555 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:08 pm Galleys and galleasses were mainly used in the mediterranean and american colonies while galiots were used in northern europe quite a bit
So about the question and suggestion?
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Just ignore it for now
When we get another faction then we can give those ships to it, and rearrenge britain.
Britain wont be historically correct for a while. It will be the base for others factions
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Made a carrack from the cog. I made it bigger but i don't know if it looked bigger. Also making it bigger is impossible unless a redo which is not available for me. LOL

Pls give some thoughts.
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Nice

What about making the cog smaller, its quite massive now lol, it should probably fit in 64x64 like galiot
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If you dont mind DreJaDe, id like to try make images for some more ships :D
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Squirrel5555 wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:00 am If you dont mind DreJaDe, id like to try make images for some more ships :D
Well of course yes.

Also, if I don't have the reference drawing I can't draw which you can do.

I actually just draw what I want.
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Well, here's the remake of "The Cog".

I'm quite proud of it since it's an original and not taken from existing unit images.

Here it is 'HMS COG 2"!!
Yey
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Looks great
I'll post stats soon for adding to the list
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Beautiful! :D
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Ok i made final (i hope) improvements to the galiot and made an image for the galley that is more to scale. :D
im happy with the galley, but let me know your thoughts
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Ill also do galleass, light frigate and frigate over the next few days
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Now, we need to define the role of the ships for make stats
-cog: no attack, god carry capacity, medium speed
-galleot: few qttack power, small carty capacity, medium speed
-galey: galleot upgrade
-galleas: good attack, no carry cpacity, good speed
-carrack: high attack, small carry capacity, slow
-galleon: carrack upgrade

Galeas "evolve" (its a pokemon) into frigate or a variant

Do u agree, guys?

Also, what about caravels?
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Squirrel5555 wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:37 pm Ok i made final (i hope) improvements to the galiot and made an image for the galley that is more to scale. :D
im happy with the galley, but let me know your thoughts
I like these images. Thanks squirrel
Maybe a small flag on the front for faction differentiation
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Ok ill add flags :D

I agree with those roles.
But here is more complete upgrade trees:

Cog can have a tech 'large holds'? Increases carry capacity
Galiot -> Galley -> light frigate
Galleass -> Frigate -> ???
Carrack -> Galleon -> ship of the line
Caravel is for super fast exploration and a large line of sight i guess. I dont know about the upgrades for it.
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I like the first line
For frigate, its upgrade could be ironclad frigate

I think ship of the line should be another unit, appart of anyother. But ur idea is great too. It can wait...
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I know I'm kinda just being hopeful with this but, can the people inside the Cog attack?
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Like the aos viking longship?
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Here they are, with English/Genoese flag, as you requested.

Im not sure if units in cog should be able to attack, sounds like something a more raid oriented boat should have as an ability, as cog is mainly transport.

Ironclad might be a good idea! And sure, ship of the line can be its own unit :D
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They look great. They will be definitive sprites for alpha version

About attacking from cog...i was tinking on sailors, marines and almirant. These units should be able, the others no. Also, sailors and marines can take enemy ships
But it can wait. Need to focus on priorites
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Good idea with the marines! I like it, but lets focus on basics first :D
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