Fatcions

[L4cus]

Factions:
-great britain
-spain
-france
-nederland
-austria
-russian tsarate
-otoman empire

Others possibilities:
-polish-lithuanian commonwealth
-hungary
-prussia
-italian republics (venace and genoa)
-swiss
-sweden
-american natives (aztecs, incas, northern)
-american colonies (nueva españa, nueva granada, nueva toledo, america)
-assian civs(china, mongols, india, southest)

Right now, we need to focus on british basic units. Then we can think on the others factions and unique units

[L4cus]

Some indications for factions (just some concept ideas)
Spain:
-They wont have pavisse units
-They wont have halberdier
-They wont have banks
-They wont have "improved courass" tech
-They will have tercio units
-They will have Naus
-They will have ribault
-They will have inquisitor

Great britean
-They will have longbow
-They wont have crossbow or pavisse units
-They wont have halberdier upgrade
-They wont have courassier upgrade
-Unique musketeer upgrade: redcoat musketeer
-Unique granedier upgrade: redcoat granadier
-Unique flautist upgrade: redcoat flautist
-They will have naval units more accuarate

France
-They wont have pikeman upgrade
-Unique halberdier upgrade: royal halberdier
-They will have france revolution units
-They search bayonet techs faster
-They will have cranequinier and upgrades: mounted carbineer and harquebuiser

Austria
-They wont have "bayonet fight training" tech
-They wont have halberdier upgrade
-They will have war wagon
-They will have cranequinier
-They search firearms lock techs faster

Nederland
-They wont have "bayonet fight training" and "sharpen sabre" tech
-Access to reiter
-They search naval techs faster

Russia
-theh wont have pikeman, halberdier, crossbow and knights.
-They will have special units (siberian hunter, strelets, cossacks, steppe horseman)
-they wont have "improved courass", "improved stock" and "ballistic pendulum" techs


If u have some ideas or suggestions, plis post them

[Gral.Sturnn]

the russian did have pikemen in their streltsy corps as a large use of bardiches and regarding knights, no they did not have any just noblemen like boyars and such.

[L4cus]

the russian did have pikemen in their streltsy corps as a large use of bardiches and regarding knights, no they did not have any just noblemen like boyars and such.

Strelets will have differents weapons, like bardiche, pike, musket, sabre
I was thinking on boyars too
Its like the regular soldiers will hve a national variation in russia

[Gral.Sturnn]

Also the Frinch did use pikeman around the 1600s as well just as in the 1600s, you need to keep in mind that some weapons were used by pretty much everyone

[L4cus]

U r right, it was for balance then since they are gonna have a uniq halberdier upgrade. To make variety on factions. It is just a concept list. Is not absolut.

[L4cus]

I have been looking for info about hungary, austria, serbian and otoman empire. They wre very related and had lot of battles. Actually they could factions in the game, but not serbia. Serbia appeared and disappeared 2 or 3 times and they used to emigrate to hungary or work for otoman.
Hungary, Austria and Otoman Empire should have access to serbian units.

[L4cus]

Looks like we can only afford 6-8 factions for the game. So, its time to decide...
What factions will be playable?
Max 8 factions. Only the main.
I think Some like spain, france, england(great bretain), russia, austria and nederland should be...they are 6

so others factions could be otoman empire, poland-lithuania commonwealth, hungary, holy empire, italian republics, swiss, sweden, american natives, assian civilizations, etc...

Max 8 factions.

I was also thinking making factions like axes and allies: groups by region, east europe, west europe, central europe. To share units (similar culture) and idk...just a random idea.

[Squirrel5555]

Why only 8?

[Gral.Sturnn]

austria and HRE can be the same, except for the 18th and 19th century. For the rest of factions we wont be able to include, we can add them as factionless units cant we?

[L4cus]

austria and HRE can be the same, except for the 18th and 19th century. For the rest of factions we wont be able to include, we can add them as factionless units cant we?

Of course

[L4cus]

Why only 8?

https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... c85d569df2
Here is the answer from stratego, i hope we can make more playable factions, but meh...it doesnt depend on me only. There would be much more work...
Aos is more simple, there are not factions jeje but meh jeje

[Squirrel5555]

Well here are some of the most important nations during these time periods:

England/Great Britain
France
Spain
HRE
Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth
Russia
Ottoman Empire

That is 7. Another possiblity is to get rid of HRE and have Austria and Prussia(which formed in 1525) as two separate factions. That would give us 8.

Others could include:
Netherlands
Republic of Venice

Anyway for now we should focus on Britain and France. They are good base factions I think. We can decide on the others later.
Also we don't need colonial factions I think. Units like that should be trained in special buildings by Empires which had access to them historically. For example Britain can build some trade building connected to the East India Company and be able to recruit sepoys from it, etc.

[Gral.Sturnn]

italy can be a hole faction for itself, thre were almost no military difference between the city states

[L4cus]

Maybe italian republics. Also i'd like to include swiss since they have a very interesting history.

[Maxbirykov2004]

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