Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

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Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:46 am

Flak jacket - Cost - 8

Gives unarmored Ranged infantry in 18th - 19th Protective jackets that gives Huge Damage reduction to Ranged artillery and infantry Gunners

Bulletproof vest - Cost - 6

Gives unarmored Ranged infantry in 18th - 19th Protective vests that gives Damage reduction to Gunners.
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:51 am

Flak jackets
Bullet Resistance: 40%

Bulletproof vests
Bullet Resistance:20%

Flak jackets were originally armor to counter Explosives,Shrapnel & other lower velocities
But I think we dont need to follow that,so +20% Bullet Resistance
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:56 am

Only affects
Ranged units with :
0 - P.Armor
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Maxbirykov2004 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:54 pm

Hmm

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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:19 pm

curassiers and tich nobles had bullet proof cuirasses, maybe certain cavalry units shoudl benefit from this, or everyone maybe
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:21 pm

Does gunners ignore P.armor?
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by L4cus » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:24 pm

Noup, thdy will only have higher attack
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:29 pm

L4cus wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:24 pm
Noup, thdy will only have higher attack
We have 3 types of Armor

Melee Armor,Peirce armor,Gunpowder armor

Gunpowder armor is the Rarest
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by L4cus » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:33 pm

No, we dont...there wont be 3 armor types...
Since gunpowder attack will be spells, we could use spell ressitance as a third armor, but nothing else
These techs could be usefull to unlock dragoons and cuirassers upgrades...also rising their spell ressistance...
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:36 pm

Maybe bullet resistance? Because spell resistance is a weird name.
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by L4cus » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:41 pm

Thas the name in aos, i suposse we can change that. Also, spell ressistance works with percentages...u can check it at some unit stats in aos
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:45 pm

L4cus wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:41 pm
Thas the name in aos, i suposse we can change that. Also, spell ressistance works with percentages...u can check it at some unit stats in aos
It doesn't hurt to change it right?
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by L4cus » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:46 pm

I suposse it doesnt
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Maxbirykov2004 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:07 pm

Yes, and do you have ideas how to do this with cooldown, percentage (accuracy)...

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Post by L4cus » Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:37 pm

Actually not...i am just a beginner...
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Post by L4cus » Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:40 pm

No accuary for infantry shoting spells.
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Maxbirykov2004 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:12 pm

L4cus wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:37 pm
Actually not...i am just a beginner...
Amm ok

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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:55 am

QuadrupoleStrat wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:51 am
Flak jackets
Bullet Resistance: 40%

Bulletproof vests
Bullet Resistance:20%

Flak jackets were originally armor to counter Explosives,Shrapnel & other lower velocities
But I think we dont need to follow that,so +20% Bullet Resistance
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:45 pm

Wait could we have artillery resistance too? For Flak jacket.

Is Artillery damage counted as Bullet Resistance?
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by L4cus » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:12 pm

yes...but no
actually, bullet spells with count as pierce armor
artillery spells, excepting graape shot, will count as spell resistance, u can change its name, it doesnt really matter
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Maxbirykov2004 » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:17 pm

QuadrupoleStrat wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:45 pm
Wait could we have artillery resistance too? For Flak jacket.

Is Artillery damage counted as Bullet Resistance?
Hmm In ours time ballistic vests (with class defense 6 (max) (in Russian defense system) can only stop Svd bullets... And as i know (class 4 (in Usa) can stop 50 cal bullets... But if you tell me about vest, that stopped artillery missile (and tester don't get killed by impact (because as i know 12. Slugs dont punch the armor but strike through vest) ok you got it... But if you mean buckshots and fragments they will gives some protection...

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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:24 pm

Maxbirykov2004 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:17 pm
QuadrupoleStrat wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:45 pm
Wait could we have artillery resistance too? For Flak jacket.

Is Artillery damage counted as Bullet Resistance?
Hmm In ours time ballistic vests (with class defense 6 (max) (in Russian defense system) can only stop Svd bullets... And as i know (class 4 (in Usa) can stop 50 cal bullets... But if you tell me about vest, that stopped artillery missile (and tester don't get killed by impact (because as i know 12. Slugs dont punch the armor but strike through vest) ok you got it... But if you mean buckshots and fragments they will gives some protection...
Well I mean buckshots and fragments from artillery but units are operated in squads so I thought artillery will still do damage but as frags.
I cant explain sorry
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Badnorth » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:25 pm

L4cus wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:12 pm
yes...but no
actually, bullet spells with count as pierce armor
artillery spells, excepting graape shot, will count as spell resistance, u can change its name, it doesnt really matter
Ok tnx I understand now
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by L4cus » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:06 am

ok, i have been reading about this...is not that far from reality...
first at all, backthen existed bulletproof vests...(17th century)
on the other hand, only officers (just few are registered) weared them, and it was not that usefull...it was some kind of improved courass
so, this wouldnt affect all infantry...since they didnt wear cuirasses...but would affect generals...mounted generals, not infantry offeicers
maybe we could make 1 unit with this equipment but it owuld be slower and worse in melee fights...in other words, since regular infantry range is 3, they would be chased easily...and defeated...
we could balance it...it was just an idea...
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Maxbirykov2004 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:35 am

Hmm

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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Squirrel5555 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:31 am

Okay. A 'protect your general' idea sounds interesting. But what buffs should general's give, and what debuffs once they die?

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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by L4cus » Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:12 am

For generala and officer, we need a different topic
I will make one
Maybe different generals(different effects) for every faction...maybe not...better not
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by L4cus » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:36 pm

could it be a little bigger? i mean the breastplate
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Re: Flak jackets and Bullet proof vests

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:50 pm

Sure
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