Big issue with Axis jets IMPLEMENTED

[DreJaDe]

All the jets of the Germans and the Japanese are available at TC.

It shouldn't be the case since
1. They are too powerful.
2. The Ally jets are not available on tc.
3. The last time I played a while back, this shouldn't have been the case or I just don't play axis enough to see them.

Anyway, this is way too much advantage so there isn't really any logic of them staying there.

[DreJaDe]

@Stratego (dev)

[Jasondunkel]

All the jets of the Germans and the Japanese are available at TC.

It shouldn't be the case since
1. They are too powerful.
2. The Ally jets are not available on tc.
3. The last time I played a while back, this shouldn't have been the case or I just don't play axis enough to see them.

Anyway, this is way too much advantage so there isn't really any logic of them staying there.

yes, except for the two me262 variants, all jets whether bomber jagtbomber and the remaining fighters should only be able to be built on the airfields

the me262 remains in tc because it was the only aircraft to be mass built

the japanese jet will then only be built on the airfields

so the planes
Arado 234, FW TA 183, Horten Ho 229, Arado E.560.4
and the Japanese J7W2-Shinden Kai and Nakajima Ki-201 jets can then only be built on the airfields

[DreJaDe]

This is really so frustrating....

Wasn't ally planes like Spitfire removed from tc for the reason that it's a really good plane for the start of the game?
If this is the case then I think spitfire could now be added again to tc now.
Pls also add the matilda tank in TC which at one point were produced 1000 in just a year. Now that im looking at it, panzer 4 is on TC...
I think, Halifax could now be added also.

Ok wait, why is BV 238 in TC? That should have never been there... No logic applies why it's there.

But please, im begging you... Just remove all jets on tc.

[Stratego (dev)]

Arado 234, FW TA 183, Horten Ho 229, Arado E.560.4
and the Japanese J7W2-Shinden Kai and Nakajima Ki-201 jets can then only be built on the airfields

ok: IMPLEMENTED: These jet planes only producable in airports: KI-201 Karyu, HO-229, TA-183
all others were there already.

[DreJaDe]

@Stratego (dev)

I thought you were with me on this... Weren't you so relentless in AOF to balance it? Why does it seem to not be true for AOWW?

[Stratego (dev)]

Why do u think i am "not with you" ?
from what u see that?

dont u see i am making the many many changes you suggest?

[Stratego (dev)]

also if you mean that i set to IMPLEMENTED however you had still talking to Jason it is no problem you can still talk, i just did not wanted to forget i already made things here.

if you two agree on the me262 i can set that too, for me either way is ok.

[Jasondunkel]

This is really so frustrating....

Wasn't ally planes like Spitfire removed from tc for the reason that it's a really good plane for the start of the game?
If this is the case then I think spitfire could now be added again to tc now.
Pls also add the matilda tank in TC which at one point were produced 1000 in just a year. Now that im looking at it, panzer 4 is on TC...
I think, Halifax could now be added also.

Ok wait, why is BV 238 in TC? That should have never been there... No logic applies why it's there.

But please, im begging you... Just remove all jets on tc.

drejad
you can build the spitfire in the tc's you just have to do the first upgrade.
and that's based on history. at the beginning of the war the hurricane was the plane that the british air force had and the spitfire was just coming up, subliminally the hurrican is now finally available as a start fighter and from industry lvl ii it changes exclusively as a bomber like the british did

All seaplanes can be built in the ship docks as well as in the tc's

the TCs were chosen for production because rivers flow through cities and we need water for these planes. we can gladly change that to the docks.

when it comes to bombers, all countries only have one medium or one heavy bomber

and then it would be nice if you didn't switch between the unit types.

[DreJaDe]

Both spitfires, hurricane were in mass production. Although Spitfires we're not as mass produced.

In 1939 alone, there were 9 squadron of spitfire already. And on July 1940, there were already 19 squadrons. 1200 + spitfire were made in 1940.

See it for yourself.
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraf ... aft_id=218

http://www.wwiiequipment.com/index.php? ... &Itemid=61

That is a big jump for aircraft production. Although many are still not on use, it's still just the same as Me262 which although in mass production, only saw limited use cause of the end of the war..

And also, what about balance? Explain to me how is me262 balanced on tc.

And what's wrong with jumping unit type? I didn't even jump games.

[Jasondunkel]

this is a response from banzai about the jet planes

I dont see it as an issue. Germany developed jet engines and then sold the tech to Japan. Maybe that's why they are in Tcs?
- could be similar to the advantages of War Machine or Great patriotic war for the allies - every side has its advantages and disadvantages.

[Stratego (dev)]

this means Bazai says jets are not good as they are in DEV?
so they should be changed back?

@TntAttack what you think?

[DreJaDe]

this means Bazai says jets are not good as they are in DEV?
so they should be changed back?

@TntAttack what you think?

Not really a good reason.

The British made a separate development of the jet on their own.

And the British are actually the one to first invent the jet engines.

By that logic, UK should also have them in tc also...

And UK shared the techs to US and the soviet so they too should have Jets on TC.

Now just leaving France and Italy on their own. The two weakest late game faction.