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Game definition jsons - Initialization jsons

Post by Stratego (dev) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:01 am

A new file where there will be some settings, the first is MINIMAL/FEW/MANY starting units definition

here the sample for AOW, i think everything is obvious seeing the sample

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{
   "defStrings":[
		{"key":"IMG_CROSSHAIR", 			"val":"64_crosshair.png"},
		{"key":"IMG_BALL", 				"val":"64_ball.png"}, 
		{"key":"IMG_SELECTION", 			"val":"64_selection.png"}, 
		{"key":"IMG_HUD_MAPEDIT_RANGED", 		"val":"unit_ger_artillery_lefh18_howitzer.png"},
		{"key":"IMG_HUD_MAPEDIT_BUILDING", 		"val":"mapeditor_buildings.png"},
		{"key":"IMG_HUD_MAPEDIT_CLOSECOMBAT", 		"val":"unit_rus_tank_t34.png"},
		{"key":"IMG_HUD_MAPEDIT_SHIPS", 		"val":"unit_us_ship_fletcher.png"},
		{"key":"IMG_HUD_MAPEDIT_GREY_RANGED", 		"val":"mapeditor_ranged_off.png"},
		{"key":"IMG_HUD_MAPEDIT_GREY_BUILDING", 	"val":"mapeditor_buildings_off.png"},
		{"key":"IMG_HUD_MAPEDIT_GREY_CLOSECOMBAT", 	"val":"mapeditor_closecombat_off.png"},
		{"key":"IMG_HUD_MAPEDIT_GREY_SHIPS", 		"val":"mapeditor_ships_off.png"}
   ],
   "defIntegers":[
		{"key":"MAPEDITOR_DEFAULT_UNIT_ID", 		"val":"105"}
   ],
   "defBools":[
		{"key":"GRAPHICS_MOSTLY_RIGHT", 		"val":true}
   ],
   
   "trnDailyGiftUnitTypes": ["UNIT_GER_INF_ENGINEERS", "UNIT_US_INF_ENGINEERS", "UNIT_JP_INF_ENGINEERS", "UNIT_RU_INF_ENGINEERS", "UNIT_GB_INF_ENGINEERS"],
   
   "initialUnitSpawning": [
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_US", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_US_INF_INFANTRY"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_US", "mapStartingUnits": "FEW",     "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_US_INF_INFANTRY","UNIT_US_VEHICLE_JEEP"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_US", "mapStartingUnits": "MANY",    "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_US_INF_INFANTRY", "UNIT_US_INF_INFANTRY", "UNIT_US_VEHICLE_JEEP", "UNIT_US_SHERMAN"] },
      
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_GER", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_GER_INF_INFANTRY"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_GER", "mapStartingUnits": "FEW",     "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_GER_INF_INFANTRY","UNIT_GER_VEHICLE_KUBELWAGEN"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_GER", "mapStartingUnits": "MANY",    "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_GER_INF_INFANTRY", "UNIT_GER_INF_INFANTRY", "UNIT_GER_VEHICLE_KUBELWAGEN", "UNIT_GER_PANZER_III"] },
      
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_RU", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_RU_INF_INFANTRY"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_RU", "mapStartingUnits": "FEW",     "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_RU_INF_INFANTRY","UNIT_RU_VEHICLE_BA_64"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_RU", "mapStartingUnits": "MANY",    "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_RU_INF_INFANTRY", "UNIT_RU_INF_INFANTRY", "UNIT_RU_VEHICLE_BA_64", "UNIT_RU_T34"] },
      
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_AXIS", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_GER_INF_INFANTRY"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_AXIS", "mapStartingUnits": "FEW",     "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_GER_INF_INFANTRY","UNIT_GER_VEHICLE_KUBELWAGEN"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_AXIS", "mapStartingUnits": "MANY",    "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_GER_INF_INFANTRY", "UNIT_GER_INF_INFANTRY", "UNIT_GER_VEHICLE_KUBELWAGEN", "UNIT_GER_PANZER_III"] },
      
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_ALLIES", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_US_INF_INFANTRY"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_ALLIES", "mapStartingUnits": "FEW",     "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_US_INF_INFANTRY","UNIT_RU_VEHICLE_BA_64"] },
      { "trnRaceID": "RACE_ALLIES", "mapStartingUnits": "MANY",    "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_US_INF_INFANTRY","UNIT_RU_INF_INFANTRY","UNIT_US_VEHICLE_JEEP", "UNIT_RU_T34"] }
   ]
}



Boolean: "GRAPHICS_MOSTLY_RIGHT":
meaningall unit images are looking right (and all exceptional directions are set in unit jsons in "uiDefinition":"imageFacingDirection")
false: means they are mostly looking left.

Integer: DEFINE_UNIT_BIG_HP_VALUE, DEFINE_UNIT_BIG_POWER_VALUE,DEFINE_UNIT_SMALL_HP_VALUE, DEFINE_UNIT_SMALL_POWER_VALUE
if spell is "RESISTED_BY_HP"/"RESISTED_BY_POWER" type spell, than it will resisted based on hp or power and these boundary values
if hp/power is < small value than no resistance, if hp/power is > big value than 100% resistance, in between propotional to the value and the small-big range.

Boolean: "ENABLE_BUILDING_OCCUPACY_BY_2_FRAME_ANIM":
true = old way: when buildings can be in one image with occupied and non occupied state, false = occupacy in separate image

trnDailyGiftUnitTypes
Here you can define which unit types to prefer as daily gift (if not yet owned) eg. in AOS the Castle + trebuchet should be the firsts.
(the order in the list is also matters, first will be first offered and so on)

initialUnitSpawning
Here you can set what units to spawn for the given race/nation on different startung units settings (minimal/few/many).
IMPORTANT!: you can only set units that can move onto that tiletype where the starting TC is standing.

eg. if TC is standing on grass than only units that also can stand on grass.
if you set a TC to "space" than only the unit that can walk on space (spaceships/astronauts)
Example setting in AOG for ground and space TC variations:
so instead of this:

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{ "trnRaceID": "RACE_HUM", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_HUM_INF_RALFIEMENS"]},
you can set this

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{ "trnRaceID": "RACE_HUM", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_HUM_INF_SPACEMAN", "UNIT_HUM_INF_RALFIEMENS"]},
and only spaceman will spawn on space terrain, and ralfiements on non space terrain (eg. grass)

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Re: Game definition jsons - Initialization jsons

Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:25 pm

new items can be set (special images)

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Post by Stratego (dev) » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:28 am

new bolean alue can be set:
{"key":"GRAPHICS_MOSTLY_RIGHT", "val":true}

meaningall unit images are looking right (and all exceptional directions are sen in unit jsons in "uiDefinition":"imageFacingDirection")
false: means they are mostly looking left.

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Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:16 pm

new values:
{"key":"DEFINE_UNIT_BIG_HP_VALUE", "val":"50"},
{"key":"DEFINE_UNIT_BIG_POWER_VALUE", "val":"20"},
{"key":"DEFINE_UNIT_SMALL_HP_VALUE", "val":"10"},
{"key":"DEFINE_UNIT_SMALL_POWER_VALUE", "val":"5"}

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Post by Stratego (dev) » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:42 pm

new option:

"trnDailyGiftUnitTypes": ["UNIT_GER_INF_ENGINEERS", "UNIT_US_INF_ENGINEERS", "UNIT_JP_INF_ENGINEERS", "UNIT_RU_INF_ENGINEERS", "UNIT_GB_INF_ENGINEERS"],

trnDailyGiftUnitTypes
Here you can define which unit types to offer as daily gift (if not yet owned) eg. in AOS the Castle + trebuchet should be the firsts.

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Re: Game definition jsons - Initialization jsons

Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:07 am

new option

Boolean: "ENABLE_BUILDING_OCCUPACY_BY_2_FRAME_ANIM":
true = old way: when buildings can be in one image with occupied and non occupied state, false = occupacy in separate image

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Post by L4cus » Sun May 02, 2021 12:53 am

Stratego (dev) wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:16 pm
new values:
{"key":"DEFINE_UNIT_BIG_HP_VALUE", "val":"50"},
{"key":"DEFINE_UNIT_BIG_POWER_VALUE", "val":"20"},
{"key":"DEFINE_UNIT_SMALL_HP_VALUE", "val":"10"},
{"key":"DEFINE_UNIT_SMALL_POWER_VALUE", "val":"5"}
hi, what does this mean?
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Post by makazuwr32 » Sun May 02, 2021 4:16 am

This is used for 2 different resistance types against abilities effects.

First resistance type is generic spell/mental resistance.
Second is resisted by power/attack.
Third is resisted by health.

If ability is set as resisted by power than when you use it on enemy unit if it has power less than "small power value" ability is guaranteed to work. For every point above it chance is decreased.
If you try to affect enemy who has attack equial or bigger than "big power value" than it will guaranteed to miss.

Resisted by hp works in similar way.
If ability is set as resisted by hp than when you use it on enemy unit if it has CURRENT hp less than "small hp value" ability is guaranteed to work. For every point above it chance is decreased.
If you try to affect enemy who has CURRENT hp equial or bigger than "big hp value" than it will guaranteed to miss.
Alas if unit has 9001 max hp but current hp is l
10 or less ability will be guaranteed to land and apply effect.

And those 4 set global in-game values for them. I mean you can't change them in the map, they are set once for game itself (similar to factory per tc and mega building per tc multipliers).
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When you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:49 pm

new feature and maybe restriction
Modders: Please check in your alternative if that is good for your current setting or not!

initialUnitSpawning
Here you can set what units to spawn for the given race/nation on different startung units settings (minimal/few/many).
IMPORTANT!: you can only set units that can move onto that tiletype where the starting TC is standing.
eg. if TC is tanding on grass than only units that also can stand on grass.
if you set a TC to "space" than only the unit that can walk on space (spaceships/astronauts)
Example setting in AOG for ground and space TC variations:
so instead of this:

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{ "trnRaceID": "RACE_HUM", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_HUM_INF_RALFIEMENS"]},
you can set this

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{ "trnRaceID": "RACE_HUM", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_HUM_INF_ASTRONAUT", "UNIT_HUM_INF_RALFIEMENS"]},
and only astronaut will spawn on space terrain, and ralfiements on non space terrain (eg. grass)

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Post by L4cus » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:00 pm

so i can set something like:
{ "trnRaceID": "RACE_BRI", "mapStartingUnits": "MINIMAL", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_BRI_INF_MUSKETEERS", "UNIT_BRI_SHIP_CARAVEL"]}
and when the tc is next to water it will spawn both, but when u are in the mainland u will only have musketeers?
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:21 pm

currently no, it only checks the TC tile type.
there was yet any need to give a ship as starter - hence check the neighboring - as i remember starting units all non naval units currently.

this was made to the new TC kinds, that are not land TC-s (in AOG the space-TC-s or spacestations)

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Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:22 pm

Hm.
Whill this give us option to make 2+ different sets of starting units depending on what tile starting tc spawns?

For example different starting units sets (with same amount of starting units alas — for example normal amount) for:
Grass
Forest
Water
Iced water
Mountains
And many more...

Right?

Upd.:
Now that i look closer onto example i think it is a bit different and not what i am thinking about.
It just will select all (?) possible units to spawn on starting tc tile from that selection.

What do i hope to see is different alas:
Set 1 — tile type 1 — race 1 — minimal units setting: spawns unit A; normal units setting: spawns unit A, unit B; lots unit setting: spawns unit A, unit B, unit C, unit D.
Set 2 — tile type 2 — race 1 — minimal units setting: spawns unit Z; normal units setting: spawns unit Z, unit Y; lots units setting: spawns unit Z, unit Y, unit X, unit W.
And so on.
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Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
When you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Post by Endru1241 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:25 pm

Is that possible to be used in current AoS, which doesn't have races yet?
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:29 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:22 pm
Hm.
Whill this give us option to make 2+ different sets of starting units depending on what tile starting tc spawns?

...
no, the logic only FILTERS the given starting units by the terrain under the TC.
so you CAN set different sets BUT only if they can only walk on those terrains.

for instance if u make a naval TC than only waterwalking units will spawn there

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Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:30 pm

Endru1241 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:25 pm
Is that possible to be used in current AoS, which doesn't have races yet?
sure, it is already used - i hope it works already
(if the currently set starting units all can walk on same terrain a TC can be placed on - than ok.)

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Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:32 pm

Stratego (dev) wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:29 pm
makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:22 pm
Hm.
Whill this give us option to make 2+ different sets of starting units depending on what tile starting tc spawns?

...
no, the logic only FILTERS the given starting units by the terrain under the TC.
so you CAN set different sets BUT only if they can only walk on those terrains.

for instance if u make a naval TC than only waterwalking units will spawn there
Already figured that.

But than i have next question:
If i set for starting possible units water walking unit and land unit than when tc spawns on tile that fits for both conditions (bridge for example) — will it spawn both units than?
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Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:34 pm

Also here is a better idea i think:
makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:22 pm
Upd.:
Now that i look closer onto example i think it is a bit different and not what i am thinking about.
It just will select all (?) possible units to spawn on starting tc tile from that selection.

What do i hope to see is different alas:
Set 1 — tile type 1 — race 1 — minimal units setting: spawns unit A; normal units setting: spawns unit A, unit B; lots unit setting: spawns unit A, unit B, unit C, unit D.
Set 2 — tile type 2 — race 1 — minimal units setting: spawns unit Z; normal units setting: spawns unit Z, unit Y; lots units setting: spawns unit Z, unit Y, unit X, unit W.
And so on.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
When you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Post by Endru1241 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:42 pm

Stratego (dev) wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:30 pm
Endru1241 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:25 pm
Is that possible to be used in current AoS, which doesn't have races yet?
sure, it is already used - i hope it works already
(if the currently set starting units all can walk on same terrain a TC can be placed on - than ok.)
I mean, should I just skip race, like?
{ "mapStartingUnits": "FEW", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_WORKER", "UNIT_SCOUT", "UNIT_TRANSPORTSHIP"]}
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:54 pm

I mean, should I just skip race, like?
{ "mapStartingUnits": "FEW", "trnUnitTypesToPlace": ["UNIT_WORKER", "UNIT_SCOUT", "UNIT_TRANSPORTSHIP"]}
yes, (but i thought AOS already has that settingin json)

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Post by Stratego (dev) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:56 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:34 pm
Also here is a better idea i think:
makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:22 pm
Upd.:
Now that i look closer onto example i think it is a bit different and not what i am thinking about.
It just will select all (?) possible units to spawn on starting tc tile from that selection.

What do i hope to see is different alas:
Set 1 — tile type 1 — race 1 — minimal units setting: spawns unit A; normal units setting: spawns unit A, unit B; lots unit setting: spawns unit A, unit B, unit C, unit D.
Set 2 — tile type 2 — race 1 — minimal units setting: spawns unit Z; normal units setting: spawns unit Z, unit Y; lots units setting: spawns unit Z, unit Y, unit X, unit W.
And so on.
sure, but there are about 30 tile types in game. would be harder to configure - so i decided this - mainly because it is for totally different tiles that not even can be on same map together (space tile - ground tile). So this is not for AOF, there we do not even have different kind of TC-s.

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Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:54 am

In aof we do not have them only because we do not have time.
We planned long ago to add water tcs, remember?

Also in this variant we maybe can choose multiple tiles per set. For example grass, sand, snow, bridge.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:34 pm
Also here is a better idea i think:
makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:22 pm
Upd.:
Now that i look closer onto example i think it is a bit different and not what i am thinking about.
It just will select all (?) possible units to spawn on starting tc tile from that selection.

What do i hope to see is different alas:
Set 1 — tile type 1 — race 1 — minimal units setting: spawns unit A; normal units setting: spawns unit A, unit B; lots unit setting: spawns unit A, unit B, unit C, unit D.
Set 2 — tile type 2 — race 1 — minimal units setting: spawns unit Z; normal units setting: spawns unit Z, unit Y; lots units setting: spawns unit Z, unit Y, unit X, unit W.
And so on.
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Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
When you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:41 am

this will not come anytime soon.

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Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:20 am

Maybe in unity version we can hope to get that?
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:42 am

it is not related to unity version.
it is aftert all races are already balanced and no UC remains.

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Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:20 pm

well probably we will be at that stage when unity version is released.
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Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:24 pm

nooo, that should not take 2 years :)

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Post by L4cus » Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:42 pm

unity will take about 2 years???!!! well, i kinda dont know anything about it...i ust would like to have a different set of initial units for water maps
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:19 pm

or more... :(
"water" maps, not sure what u mean by that.

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Post by L4cus » Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:21 pm

it should be another topic...
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:32 pm

yes

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