reconnaissance aircraft +IMG

[BrenoHenrique]

they would be airplanes with great range of vision (and capable of finding camouflaged ground units) but without weapons like the Storch plane.

[BrenoHenrique]

if this is accepted I can work on images for them

[HauptmannHorst]

Please yes the ability of finding stealth units is a point to justify These troops

[BrenoHenrique]

Please yes the ability of finding stealth units is a point to justify These troops

I will make reconnaissance aircraft (do you know any reconnaissance aircraft).

[BrenoHenrique]

so far I only know this one:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... usg=AOvVT3

[Matheus Nascimento]

German Focke Wulf Fw 189 Uhu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_189_Uhu

[TrueSlav]

I don't think that we need 2 of the pretty much the same aircraft with the same purpouse for each nation. I recommend you make only one of these

Soviet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_KhAI-5
American:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_OS2U_Kingfisher
Italian:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Ca.310
Japanese:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokosuka_E14Y
French:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_630

[BrenoHenrique]

I don't think that we need 2 of the pretty much the same aircraft with the same purpouse for each nation. I recommend you make only one of these

Soviet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_KhAI-5
American:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_OS2U_Kingfisher
Italian:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Ca.310
Japanese:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yokosuka_E14Y
French:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potez_630

thanks.

[Harchie Hirondo]

Potez 630 is already in game.
I will just increase its sight range...

[BrenoHenrique]

Potez 630 is already in game.
I will just increase its sight range...

it is not necessary. I am working on new aircraft.

[BrenoHenrique]

I am using smaller aircraft like these:
Germany:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... QIQhJKYQH0
UK:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... OvVaw2mLDT
Japan:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobeseiko_Te-G%C5%8D
Russia:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... &usgtQvLL5
Italy:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... AgQQOOOXHN
France: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANF_Les_Mureaux_113 these are smaller planes

[BrenoHenrique]

this to the USA: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronca_L-3

[BrenoHenrique]

so i'm not good at statistics but they must be good at finding cloaked units to have a wide range of vision but to be really bad at firepower but fast.

[BrenoHenrique]

Potez 630 is already in game.
I will just increase its sight range...

it is not necessary. I am working on new aircraft.

here the images I am working on the planes from Japan and the USA.

[BrenoHenrique]

plane to the USA and Japan

[Jasondunkel]

i would like to include reconnaissance aircraft as an extra category.

as mentioned in one section of the balance discussion, they should not be aircraft that are already in use.
if they have armament, these planes will not get a bonus for combat. they will get extra strong armour. which is historically wrong in any case. they will get an extra large visual range somewhere between 15-20. in this case for all nations the same. the cost i would suggest would be 5 like most fighter planes.

in return all other aircraft get less visibility between 2-3 less but not less than 5 or 6.

if the narrow is then so far to recognise natural borders like mountains, forests etc. as visibility borders, these would of course still count for these aircraft

@DreJaDe
@TnT
@Stratego
@SS-Jericho

[SS-Jericho]

more than 15 is too much. It will be too hard to counter if used right at the edge of enemy sight. And also annoying on smaller maps since it can see so much in fog of war. It would not be able to see camouflaged units right? But i like reconnaissance aircraft to be included.

[TrueSlav]

Actually sounds pretty decent. And I cannot imagine it being of much use without it have the 15-20 tile range and not being able to see stealth.

[DreJaDe]

I also disagree with this.

One.
Sight is too much. 10+ is more ok for me.

Two.
It's ok even if it's easy for them to be killed. Since they are meant to be just a reconnaissance thought honestly, ally one have built in counter and not just sonars.

Three.
That 15+ can already see the whole map.
That's basically 30 tiles sight if we consider only the length. Too much as I said.

Four,
I kinda disagree that all airplanes to be reduced in sight.... Too much nerf. Though I will agree to nerf if it's the like corsair or the fw190 which have unbelievable sight range. Night fighters are kinda ok though I want to buff the planes that has radars.

Five.
I believe, visual borders are not possible currently. Its either they can all or not. But there's no way to block their sight from only one point.

[Jasondunkel]

the natural limits are not yet possible.

this is a thought for the future. and stratego knows that he should do something there. but whether he can do it is still open and will take time.

the view for the reconnaissance planes are first thought games. and yes i know that some maps can be seen completely with it.

i think of all the planes we have in the game there are also night fighters. and since we are playing without a night, this type of aircraft should not be taken into account.

what we could do that we give the bombers a little more visibility than the fighters and fighter-bombers.

and yes, camouflage capabilities should not be recognized.

[TntAttack]

I mean, there is a easier solution. Give the scout aircraft another action to move, so they can scout further if needed. Decrease their sight, but compensate with extra movement.

An example would be a scout aircraft with 10 speed. It moves 6 tiles, and player vision is increased by 6. If it is safe, proceed with the remaining 4 speed left. If it is not safe, retreat! Gives the player flexibility to move around the battlefield, taking risks to uncover their enemy's base and the remaining movement allows for survival.

(If the player doesn't use all his movement speed of his recon aircraft by the second move, that's it no extra movement.)

//Unfortunately I still don't have any answers for their usage during non FOG matches.