Peoples reaction based on my testing

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Peoples reaction based on my testing

Post by SirPat » Sat May 01, 2021 12:17 am

Ive been spreading AoS and its variants all over the internet by means of telling online friends about this and teaching.

One big problem about AoS and other variants is that it looks plain at first then over time it gets confussing to the point that about more than 50% of the people I made to test AoS have decided to give up. And now I only got 1 person left commited enough to play and understand the game. I think I had like 40+ people in this test.

The player that got left said he took the game for granted and decided to study it. As of now im teaching him stuff and he said hes starting to get addicted so thats cool.


I know we all know that Ao games are very confussing specially for new players. It took me about 4-6+ installs of this game cause I always didnt understood and gave up
-_-|| yeah sooooo

I just want us to talk about the fact and maybe find a way like make even more tutorials and stuff or some kind of more descriptions so they can understand each aspect of the game and maybe finally arrange the shop.

This isnt a post for a change I want this is more of a Hey we really have to talk about this and stuff and I did some tests so look at this info. Ty thats all.
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Re: Peoples reaction based on my testing

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat May 01, 2021 12:20 am

thanks for telling me!

please try to list the key points that are confusing for new ones, what needs changing, or more easyx to learn.
would be awesome if you could query some of the 39 who left the game - what was the reason - thanks!

thanks!

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Post by SirPat » Sat May 01, 2021 1:14 am

Sure, Ill try to post it sometime this week, just have to pile up my info
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Post by SirPat » Sat May 01, 2021 5:53 am

I did the testing for about 5months or longer so alotta people in my tests, I dont have contacts with them anymore(personal reasons) but all of their feedback are all the same and the one player that sticked with the game, I got to interview him and this is what he said:

"my first opinion on the game was that the instructions were unclear and it seemed lame, now that im really playing it, its very interesting and stratigical hehe but understanding the mechanics like the buttons on the screen and stuff is very confusing imo especially when you're a warfare noob like me.other than that the game itself is actually enjoyable."


To conclude: we really need a more better
"learning experience for new players"


Maybe have a strategy book filled with pictures of tactics and maybe one that u can test the strategy in the strat book kinda similar like a campaign I know I posted smt about this somewhere but idk ill try to right down stuff that new players need to learn oh and maybe add some more tips on the loading screen
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Re: Peoples reaction based on my testing

Post by godOfKings » Sat May 01, 2021 12:23 pm

Honestly speaking, my first time ao experience was basically i tried different campaign maps or skirmish games with ai for the first 3 months, and after finally unlocking a bunch of units i started the mutliplayer experience

But back then there were no gun powder techs or units, upgrading spearman took 6 turns, catapults were op so just spamming catapults and wagons i could win most of the games, so it was much simpler than it is now, not that i m complaining rather i m very happy with the development, but still if i was a new player who started aos now instead of 3 years ago, then i would also b very confused by the massive contents and playstyles,
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Post by SirPat » Sat May 01, 2021 3:12 pm

Yeah we have so much game mechanics and diff auras and spells and effects that its super confusing
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Post by godOfKings » Sat May 01, 2021 5:50 pm

But then again the interface is much better than b4, such as clicking on aura gives detailed description on exactly wat it does

I think for now the first thing is to teach players how to read how an aura works by clicking on them, then there can b a tutorial mission where player has to utilise different terrains, also showing them how to read the speed of a unit in different terrains by clicking the yellow arrow next to speed on stat sheet, all these small helps and tips, also may b telling players they can seek help from forums if a campaign is too difficult to win
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Re: Peoples reaction based on my testing

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat May 01, 2021 6:35 pm

I should say that i, pretty old aos llayer, am very confused from current aos specifically. Even 6 months later i still can't find my own play style in aos since there are now way tooooooo many variables for me.

Also i do not like cavalry wagons there.
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Re: Peoples reaction based on my testing

Post by godOfKings » Sat May 01, 2021 7:30 pm

Cavalry wagon is balancing issue, currently cavalry only use is to find and destroy long ranged siege but cavalry can only reach first if aided by wagon/ transport ship or roads

also because siege towers/ defensive towers, cavalry cant deal with the archers, healers inside, they only good for tanking arrows or first striking weaker targets,

Anyways back to topic, this topic is how to keep new players hooked to aos instead of confusing them on how to play and making them quit

Btw i got a new idea but its kind of long term, completely removing upgrades section, wait there is more :P making a new upgrades section where all the national buildings and units, each unit and its upgrade techs, similar units and their ability related techs r all grouped together instead of being scattered, i wonder if its possible to refund gems so we can buy them again but properly this time
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Re: Peoples reaction based on my testing

Post by L4cus » Mon May 03, 2021 4:15 pm

someone should make yt tutorial about this game
:) this way people will understand better, btw, the experiences of a veteran could be usefull for some recomendations about how to use each unit or group of units (categories)
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Re: Peoples reaction based on my testing

Post by Maxbirykov2004 » Tue May 04, 2021 5:10 am

Hmm 🤔 ok...

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Re: Peoples reaction based on my testing

Post by SirPat » Wed May 05, 2021 9:26 am

Yeah I a lil uodate I cant get the rest of their feedback but the ones who did all have the same problem. They couldnt understand the game and some thinks its lame kinda generic. Tbh it was very generic once you started the game but super diverse and complex once u got so much upgrades. So ig a proper upgrade store is needed to let them see what theyre really diving into and all of the diversity theyll find. Thats all for now ty
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