Remove dodges from orc spear throwers.- ANSWERED

[Anchar]

Why don't you see me as a good player? Did you play with me? Let Macazuwr show me that I'm wrong.

[makazuwr32]

Personally I do not see you as good or bad player but from what i see of your posts is that you do not understand well some points of elven powers or orcish weaknesses which doesn't loo well as for me for player whom i can call "skilled".

[Anchar]

So will you play against me or against someone else?

[Anchar]

Does the water unit include a builder?

[makazuwr32]

So will you play against me or against someone else?

I will play against you to show specifically you ways how elves can fight so we can solve this balancing issue. At very least it is you, not someone else, have opened this specific issue.

alas i will fight against some other players as well just because i did not play for quite a while.

Does the water unit include a builder?

Yes it does for both sides (elves also have such unit now)

[Anchar]

no, I mean, can I play as orcs, make goblin water builder ?

[makazuwr32]

no, I mean, can I play as orcs, make goblin water builder ?

no. those maps in the first place do not have much water.

[Anchar]

also do not forget that I have a vanilla version of the game

[makazuwr32]

Alright. Noticed.

[Anchar]

no, I mean, can I play as orcs, make goblin water builder ?

no. those maps in the first place do not have much water.

that is, I can't do water builders?

[Anchar]

I looked at the maps you suggested, I would like to start with one center and 1 builder, since in this case we can look at an important aspect for balance: the rate of capture of the building.

[Stratego (dev)]

Is there some kind of guide? I made trigger 1, then clicked on it, then clicked plus and added null labels, in these labels I chose parameters similar to those you wrote in the list, and then I don't know what to do. Do I need to do these parameters for each fighter?

please read the in-game mapeditor help that is detailed about triggers.
also in forum FAQ and in mapdesign sections you can find help on forum.

and lastly lets not talk about triggers on this topic, it is OFF here

[makazuwr32]

I looked at the maps you suggested, I would like to start with one center and 1 builder, since in this case we can look at an important aspect for balance: the rate of capture of the building.

Exept Battle of forts (where you start with 20 tcs right from the start, alas only 1 of them has initial army) all other maps have still 1 starting tc for each player. Fine for me to start with minimal unit count.

Yes without water builders (i know that they also have higher mend rate and thus sometimes are used due to that).

[Stratego (dev)]

I have some thoughts:
1 . If you discuss a general test on many things about 2 race then please open a topic for it and talk there. Here the troll headhunter should be only.
2. Anchar: on a balancing topic you open do not start with the solution (eg. "Remove dodge from this and that"), only describe the problem and only as suggestions you can put some possible solutuons but not thinking that can be the only solution. As to solve a problem there are definitely many many solution options.

So best if
- first the problem
- after the playtest and if confirmed
- the suggested solutions

Thanks!

[Anchar]

Under the solutions, I offered possible solutions, this does not mean that I put an ultimatum, I just made proposals based on my opinion.

[Savra]

So will you play against me or against someone else?

I will play against you to show specifically you ways how elves can fight so we can solve this balancing issue. At very least it is you, not someone else, have opened this specific issue.

alas i will fight against some other players as well just because i did not play for quite a while.

Does the water unit include a builder?

Yes it does for both sides (elves also have such unit now)

If you want I could challenge you, it would be a good way for me to find some bugs anyway and I could play orcs if you'd like too being that I have all units for all factions and I'm getting bored of my current stalemate with myself looking for bugs.

I also have Dev version so you won't have to worry about using new units.

[Stratego (dev)]

Under the solutions, I offered possible solutions, this does not mean that I put an ultimatum, I just made proposals based on my opinion.

ok but as i say your title here is "Remove dodges from orc spear throwers" instead of "Orc spear throwers seems unbeatable by elves" or something like this.

so name the problem, not the solution.
in the texting too.

[makazuwr32]

i will make than a bit later match and sned you info in pm.