AA cant hit planes inside TC

[DreJaDe]

Players use Planes to block hits inside TC cause you need AA to effectively delete them.

Problem
Normal AA units cant hit them while inside TC.

Solution
AA units will receive aa skill to be able to hit planes inside TC like how ships currently does.

(No changes of mode of attack needed.)

[Stratego (dev)]

i think it is better to let AA target
a) all TC-s,
b) or TC-s that are "blocked" by planes.

a new ability i unnecessary and not straigthforward imho.

[TntAttack]

B makes more sense, but technically speaking an aircraft isn't flying inside a town, it is grounded isn't it? So the more accurate implementation is to treat aircraft in towns like vulnerable ground units that can be easily taken out....

[Stratego (dev)]

maybe, but sounds more dangerous to put in

[Stratego (dev)]

mabe a "loses flying" specunitaction that can be set to tc?

[DreJaDe]

B makes more sense, but technically speaking an aircraft isn't flying inside a town, it is grounded isn't it? So the more accurate implementation is to treat aircraft in towns like vulnerable ground units that can be easily taken out....

If 1 tile is 1-2 km then I imagine that it can fly in the sky of town and around it... Not necessarily grounded.

B definitely makes more sense though i could agree with the removal of its flying aspect when in tc.

[Stratego (dev)]

baad news i think targeting is set by category so removing flying will still not let any other unit to target planes.

[DreJaDe]

baad news i think targeting is set by category so removing flying will still not let any other unit to target planes.

Kinda expected it but since your the dev...

So is B actually possible? Or no choice but the ability?

This is actually quite a problem

[Stratego (dev)]

you say AA abilities can target such TC-s?

[DreJaDe]

you say AA abilities can target such TC-s?

Aoww ships have aa ability that can target tc that uses plane for protection.

In naval battles, this is the only way to effectively counter them currently...

Even worse in land battles where you can only use mobile aa that can attack anything although have weaker damage.

[Stratego (dev)]

" only use mobile aa that can attack anything"
wait land AA can target TCs-with planes in it? which unit? and other land AA units can not target TCs-with planes in it?

[DreJaDe]

" only use mobile aa that can attack anything"
wait land AA can target TCs-with planes in it? which unit? and other land AA units can not target TCs-with planes in it?

Mobile aa (those aa with 4-5 speed and has 2 attacks)
Normal AA (those with 1 movement speed and high range 6-8)
Ship AA (abilities used by ship)

This is the three types of aa in my vocabulary.

Currently, Mobile AA can attack anything thus can hit tc with aircraft just fine.

Normal AA cant do as mobile AA and can only attack planes outside tc

Ship aa can attack aircraft in/out of tc.

[TntAttack]

I don't suppose you have a free fire ability/function that you can enable for ranged units so that the player can manually fire anywhere they please?

Also, is it possible to decrease the damage of aa over range? E.g. aa attacking at 1-3 tiles very strong but 4-6 tiles not as strong?

[DreJaDe]

I don't suppose you have a free fire ability/function that you can enable for ranged units so that the player can manually fire anywhere they please?

Possible through abilities or maybe just be able to target anything for normal attack like how movement is done.

Also, is it possible to decrease the damage of aa over range? E.g. aa attacking at 1-3 tiles very strong but 4-6 tiles not as strong?

Btw, heavy aa have best damage at its maximum height cause they are using timed bullets.

[TntAttack]

Also, is it possible to decrease the damage of aa over range? E.g. aa attacking at 1-3 tiles very strong but 4-6 tiles not as strong?

Btw, heavy aa have best damage at its maximum height cause they are using timed bullets.

Okay, then vice versa for heavy aa. It's pretty standardise the damages for aa against aircraft, having some variety would be nice.

[Stratego (dev)]

variety?

here we talked about that all effect and damages hsould wortk similarily: eg. let target planes in TC-s.

[Stratego (dev)]

i made the change hopefully not ruining many other attacking case.

but i saw a difference: now (instead of the TC itself) the first unit inside is checked for "is attackable" so now normal attacks can not target a TC that has a plane in it (target sign not shown) only those units can that can target planes.

is that good?

[TntAttack]

Sufficient I think. Doesn't fix the problem 100%, but it's not like this is a major problem, just go build some mobile as trucks or something instead. Better yet use fighter planes.

[Stratego (dev)]

you mean i should not make this change at all?

[DreJaDe]

i made the change hopefully not ruining many other attacking case.

but i saw a difference: now (instead of the TC itself) the first unit inside is checked for "is attackable" so now normal attacks can not target a TC that has a plane in it (target sign not shown) only those units can that can target planes.

is that good?

To see is to believe.

Not sure till i can test it.

[Stratego (dev)]

ok it is uos 5.
please if u can.

[DreJaDe]

ok it is uos 5.
please if u can.

Seems to be working just fine.

Nice
Thanks