Helicopter — ARCHIVED

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Helicopter — ARCHIVED

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Helicopter
Buildable by siege workshop
Cost 3 turns
Health - 12
Damage - 4 (can be increased via researches to 10, has 150% bonus to air units)
Range - 3
No armor, can't gain any.
Power range - 1, can be increased to 2 by research.
Speed - 6
Sight - 9
Can see invincible units.
Abilities:
Bombs away! – launches bomb on target building dealing 25 melee damage. Cooldown 1 turn, needs to be researched first in workshop for 5 turns.
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I really like this idea.
Dwarfs need a scout.
We could add a 6-7 turn couldown abillity "drop bombs"
with 10-15 damage with extra damage to buildings (yes i know what you think... I really like bombs)

I will try make a image for the unit .
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Actually that is wc3 inspired unit and i like idea of bombs. We can just make ability that targets only buildings but for 20-30 damage that ignores armors.
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Awesome exactly what we need !!!
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Tell me your opinion.
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I really like it...
but I am not sure
I do not know exactly how it will look with normal team color (blue, red, green)

If the colors do not blend nicely together:
I will increase the shadow levels
or
remove the team color and make it look like metal
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I don't like how this looks like.
I'll prefer less amount of team color at least or even just another model completely. Sorry.

Maybe something like this:
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lol the image you just posted is even more difficult to make but I will try.
if anyone can show me how the unit looks in game please post the image here so I can see it.
Also i will try removing the team color and adding more metal.
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This is a resprite of old model from Warcraft 3:
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I dont like that one maybe this ones are easier to make?
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lol :lol:
your image from Warhammer fantasy battles is the inspiration I used.
Just look the image i made.
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Well the world of warcraft helicopter doesent looks easier
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makazuwr32 wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:27 pm I don't like how this looks like.
I'll prefer less amount of team color at least or even just another model completely. Sorry.

Maybe something like this:
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This is WC3 Remodeled Helicopter, not WoW one.
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Sorry my bad
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There is also a logo of mod where is that model.
I really like this mod and especially dwarves there. too bad that work is going too slow - for now completed less than 20% of all models.
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So what design should we go for? Or maybe make different helicopters
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I like the one i posted first more - it looks more Realistic than your images, especially first one where dwarf seems to be a 50-70% of all helicopter.
More metallic, less teamcolor, 2 rotors on the sides, i don't care about those exhaust pipes.
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Well I wilk give it a try in the afternoon, and the helicopter you said was 70% dwarf google gyrocopter.
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New image.
i changed the hair color of the dwarf (i can give him red hair)
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Tried to add a shining effect (without it look dull)
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i don't like look of this flying boat with few rotors still.
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I will give it a try in the afternoon for both ideas
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Boat ?
Really.... ;)
Ok i will now start making the other 2 styles.
I like the model from warcraft 3 (i will start from there)
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Gral.Sturnn (make the images i will love to see them.)
i will now start with bersekers,rune mage and rune smith
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I'll explain why i like WC3 one (even old model!):
1. I am an engeneer and that one looks more realistic as a helicopter (not as gyrocopter).
2. it has Skies for landing which is so far the best way for helicopters for landing.
3. Detailed and more realistic engines than your images have, @Gral.Sturnn.
4. This one REALLY can hold bombs (it has place for bombs theoretically). Your variants don't have, especially gyrocopter one.
5. Better aerodynamic than your ones, Gral.Sturnn.
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:lol:
about gyrocopter:
Well the dwarf at the gyrocopter have to carry the bombs at his feet and throw them with his hands.
he has a steam cannon at the front (this is why it looks like a boat).

also gyrocopters surely can not fly at real life

about Warcraft 3 helicopter:
i like the new image more and i will begin with it
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You cannot scrap it tough how about the gyrovopter be a lighter lower damage verision and the warcraft one be a heavy more resilent one?

Even though the bombs in the gyrocopter are thrown by the dwarf himself

Pd: gyrocopters exist in real life menselot
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really ?
wait i will search at google
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wow i had no idea.
they look cool.
a dwarf is smaller than a human.
so gyrocopters will look bigger when a dwarf is inside.
ok my gyrocopter can fly ? (propably not? but still close)
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They look like funny mosquitos xd, but they were th first working designs for what later on will become the big ass helicopter we all know
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