Dancer/Singer, to give another turn to used units.

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Dancer/Singer, to give another turn to used units.

Post by Baruka_Subarando » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:24 pm

Hello :)

This is my second post and this time i searched if it was already existing, but i found nothing like that.

So, here is this unit

Dancer / Singer
cost 5-6
hp 12
atk 2
def 1/1

Its a female unit like the Dancer of Fire Emblem, its purpose is to give another turn to an already used unit and/or to give a new buff, Double Turn(Like the Double Attack one, but also for movement) if the unit is not used this turn.

You could use it on friendly units
But thats too op if there are no restrictions.

So i have some here:

There could be a cooldown of 2-3 turns
Cant be used on other Dancers/Singers (Builders/Workers too ?)

And if you have any improvement, write something and let me know if this is a good or bad idea.

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Post by godOfKings » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:32 am

Bad, Cuz war is no place for civilians, and dancers only entertain the soldiers after they r done fighting and seek entertainment, this isn't fire emblem, although u could make a fire emblem like RPG map and use them as map editor units
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Re: Dancer/Singer, to give another turn to used units.

Post by LordOfAles » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:40 am

Maybe drummers can cast this effect?
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Post by Baruka_Subarando » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:19 am

Yeah Drummers or something that can do that, i dont care what the unit is, but the effect could be good right ?

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Post by LordOfAles » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:37 am

Yes it could, althou i would leave it to just Double Attack
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Re: Dancer/Singer, to give another turn to used units.

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:03 pm

Simple form:
+1 action
+3 speed
Duration 1
Usable only on flesh and blood troops. Does not stack with itself.

This is about as good as you're getting for an extra turn to a unit.
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Post by LordOfAles » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:37 pm

I thought we can't add speed to unit like this
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Post by Baruka_Subarando » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:20 pm

If its possible it could be cool.

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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:40 pm

LordOfAles wrote:I thought we can't add speed to unit like this
Sure we can. Just like slowing spell in AoF, but give positive value instead of negative.
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Post by godOfKings » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:35 pm

May b 'war cry' of a general or something?
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Post by Lynx Shafir » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:21 am

What about a bard?
Buffs individuals by singing dedicated encomias, tales about heroic deed of ancestors., and relaxing music after a hard day.

3speeed seems much for infantry and cav.
thouh
+1speed +1action CD 2

May have a regeneration too (2-4hp turn) last 3turns

And a one giving +3atkz,+20 spell res last 2 CD 1

Max range 3
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Post by godOfKings » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:21 pm

Since onmyoji have similar buffs I dont mind, but no heal regent, can have other two buffs, wat will b range and cool down, 2 and 1?
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Post by Lynx Shafir » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:22 am

Thoughts?
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Post by godOfKings » Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:52 pm

looks good, if it has no heal spell, i think other 2 buffs can have 3 range since its music, the extra action definitely makes it worthy,

i guess stat can b like this,
cost: 3
hp: 12
atk: 2
armor: 0/0
spell resist: 0
speed: 3
sight: 4

spell: Ballad of the adventurer
(raises speed and action +1) CD-1 Range-3 Lasts- 1 turns

Ballad of the warrior
(raises atk +3, spell res + 20%) CD-0 Range-3 Lasts-2 turns

None of the spells stack

Builder? may b tc and nordic hall? any tavern building suggested? (or just nordic hall to make it special like onmyoji)
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Re: Dancer/Singer, to give another turn to used units.

Post by Endru1241 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:53 am

If the cooldown and buff time is the same, then nobody in their right mind would ever use ballad of the warrior.
Also, having two attacks almost equals dealing x2 damage, so it's much more warrior buff than +3 power.

I think instead of 3 turns - the one increasing action and speed can only last 1 turn, but without any cooldown, only taking action.

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Post by godOfKings » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:20 am

Increasing action and speed is indeed quite useful so I gave it 1 CD and removed CD from warrior song
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Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:31 am

Maybe also add comment to that ability to not affect workers and another ballad singers.

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Post by godOfKings » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:28 am

should affect only the same units that high morale effect, and i am pretty sure high morale dont effect workers and healers (this unit should b included in healer category although it doesnt heal, and so should roman senator)
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Re: Dancer/Singer, to give another turn to used units.

Post by Endru1241 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:28 am

Exactly - group affected by high (and low) morale includes only U_WAR_UNITS_GROUND category, which is made of melee (light and heavy cavalry, melee foot, light, medium, heavy melee foot, polearm, otherwise listed in unit details) and ranged (archers, throwers and gunmen) units.

There should be list of effects affecting unit in unit details.

It shouldn't be in healer category. It should be in Misc.

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Post by Lynx Shafir » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:23 pm

It needed some fashion, 8-) nows perfect
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