Researchable runes for dwarven units.

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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Savra » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:00 pm

Idk, but gold outlines on rune stones like that one don't seem to turn out so well with the limited space. The best I could do is outline the rune itself.
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Alexander82 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:21 pm

Sorry i didn't mean that. I meant the golden decorations
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Savra » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:50 am

Okay, now that I read over your dwarf remake topic I noticed something that is off along with one of these runes.

@Alexander82 you suggested beer as a form of healing like lembas for basically all dwarves correct? If so then we might need to find a new purpose for that life rune since it would just give the dwarves 2 healing abilities per unit.

My suggestion is either give it to the dwarves healers without research required as a replacement for the heal spell and just remove the cool. (We need more unique healing methods for certain races, e.g. Dwarves, scaledfolk.) Or, we keep research cost and give it to the rune mage who could use it to summon a stone golem that acts like the elf wizards dnt somewhat. Dwarves can use runes for more things then simply enchanting themselves, the life rune pretty much means you can give life to inanimate objects like stone statues. It's worth a thought.

Also, the runes here need to be divided up a bit more then simply giving most the dwarves army about 8 runes to choose from. (that's 9 ability's including beer) that's way more then a warmage, or even a mage has in abilities. The cost of being 100 turns to get them all can be easily deducted by making more rune masons. Sure the cool makes them less OP, but they shouldn't have that much abilities for the basic units.

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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Savra » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:16 am

Updated, better?
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by makazuwr32 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:01 am

Well we will make completely different runes for dwarves. No generic rune of life availible for all dwarves.
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Post by Savra » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:36 am

Hm, it would be nice if we simply have some of these to the rune mage and kept the bezerkers one for the dwarves bezerker and the mithril guards ones to the mithril guards. Not all dwarves know how to use runes so the elites of those who study and frequently use them would be the ones who would know how to best use them.

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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by makazuwr32 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:06 am

Should i remind that mithrils will be removed?

Alas self runes will be availible (in plans for now) for most dwarven units exept cheap 2 turn ones and casters.

We are still deciding with role of rune mage and rune smith and upon that we will decide what runes they can use.
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by LordOfAles » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:08 am

And what's going to be put in place of them?
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by makazuwr32 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:12 am

Alex wants to expand dwarven defender into full elite group like imperials who will be focused on defence and such. Dwarven rifleman will be moved there by the way and will keep ability to deploy shield.

And also alex wants second elite group - "slayers" - who will be focused around killing and dealing lots of damage but with low or even none armor.
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Post by LordOfAles » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:13 am

Very good, as long as maps using mithril units don't get broken.
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by makazuwr32 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:15 am

We are going to replace them with new units. Using same ids and same buying slots in upgrade shop.
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Savra » Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:20 pm

Should I still make those runes you suggested? Do when you do figure something out you have ready runes to use still?

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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by makazuwr32 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:10 pm

Why not. Images will still be used but maybe for some different abilities.
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Savra » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:02 pm

So this is good for base right?Image

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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by makazuwr32 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:12 pm

For me yes but hetter to ask @Alexander82.
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Savra » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:20 pm

He wanted the stone to have some gold decor from the researched runes. The stone base itself was approved.

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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Savra » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:29 am

Here, castable runes.
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Savra » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:30 am

More.
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:45 pm

Think I'm a bit late, huh...
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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by Savra » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:33 pm

Yes, but that base could work better for the gold outlines... But I would need to adjust images to fit.

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Re: Researchable runes for dwarven units.

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:37 pm

Sure thing, do what you need to do...
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