Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

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Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

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Using axe to hack enemies and crush buildings
it costs 2 turns to create it
only can be created in barrack
HP 25,attack 15, speed 3, no armor (can be affected by blacksmith upgrade tech of course)
Have bonuses againts infantry 75% and building 125%
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for 2 turn unit he has extremly big stats. waaaaay to big ones.
makazuwr32 wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Okay... you can change some stats or its costs to avoid the overpower symptoms
how if we change the attack to 6 or 7?
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then he will be too similar to the celtic warriors.
also current axe thrower will be completely rebalanced soon.
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Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Actually a "barbar" unit with power range 1 and 3 cost wud be cool

May as a special nation unit.
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what looks should we aim for?
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Sounds similar to viking berserker or the zwiehander with power range, I think axe can have high bonus on wagons and other wooden units though
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Actually, berserker doesn't have power range...

Just berserk, and a form of self healing.
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Dont compare national units with normal units .
Normals most be more! This axe man is nice idea we can put this in new update beside new H. battle and units (new persian and greek units)
this axe man havs an ability:
Ability name:HIT FROM ABOVE
this ability helps axe man to hit shield and armored units nicely .. units like defender . Roman legion. Spartan. And others also i like GOD OF KINGS idea about wooden things . Hit from above ability 's‌ symbol is a war axe
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A war axe like this
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Id prefer something like this
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Yes . This is nice too
leave the axes and focus on unit :lol: :lol:
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1 or 2 handed axe?
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Two handed
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i changed the two pictures to be external links instead of attachment uploads. (simply searched to the image on net and linked the first result)
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Axes were often cheaper than swords and considerably more available.
The Scandinavian bearded" axes or "skeggox" (so named for their trailing lower blade edge which increased cleaving power and could be used to catch the edge of an opponent's shield and pull it down, leaving the shield-bearer vulnerable to a follow-up blow). Viking axes were wielded with one hand or two, depending on the length of the plain wooden haft.
  • 1
    Danish Axeman


Great to weaken enemy armors
(1handed axe -long ,shield)

Cost 3 Nordic Hall

Hp 15
Attack 10(standard bonus to building, 25%infantry,cheap archer pikeman)
Passive :Armor break on hit - 1/1 armor
Speed 3
Arm 1/1
S res 0%
  • 2.Viking D Axeman
(2handed ,2edge)
Best at taking down infantry, disrupting formations

Cost 4 Nordic Hall
Hp 18

Attack 14(trample) - 50%bonus to infantry ,
Power range 1
Action 1
Arm 2/0
Speed 3
Spell res 30%
Skill :whirlwide
8dmg


Both affected by blacksmith' armor and sword upgrades.

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Aren't hp a little low for melee units?

Maybe

1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp

Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...
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StormSaint373 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:56 pm Aren't hp a little low for melee units?

Maybe

1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp

Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...
Even with these HP, maceman still deals 30 dmg and kills both, how about they also have 4 speed considering they r lightly armored, then lynx's HP is acceptable
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godOfKings wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:54 pm
StormSaint373 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:56 pm Aren't hp a little low for melee units?

Maybe

1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp

Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...
Even with these HP, maceman still deals 30 dmg and kills both, how about they also have 4 speed considering they r lightly armored, then lynx's HP is acceptable
We all know mace man is the ultimate weapon :)

I'm not against rising hp a bit consider they are exclusive units


For speed boost I'm not sure (May with a group tech)
Therefore weak to arrows anyway

If snow and hill(if impleamented ) terrain
Gets movement penalty this two may be immune. :?
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Standard Viking strategy against archer is charge with a shield and throw axe at close range like a skirmisher, all their weapons and armors r designed as light as possible to allow mad rush, wearing leather vests
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May b the 4 turn one can have higher HP with 3 speed, if legion is armored tank, this should of assault with area dmg
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That looks really awesome!!!!!! Lynx you nailed it, bit maybe perhaps make the shield more round and bigger? You know vikings had very beautiful round shields, perhaps you can try
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They were beautiful but not that big in proportion to human size, lynx's looks fine.

They r mainly to cover head and above waist area from incoming volleys of arrows, not that effective against crossbow bolts or when flanked
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I wouldn't take a well done drawing as reality. Maybe search for a museum model instead, I expect those to be more historically accurate.
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This illustration was part of a larger series of historically accurate illustrations depicting the process of the anglo saxon invasion and the creation of england even though the argument is totally valid.

Heres a surviving example of a "viking" shield even though its no in great shape but there are more reproductions on the same website

https://sonsofvikings.com/blogs/history ... toric-look
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In this other website if you scroll enough you will notice images depicting men carriying said shield in different manners, here you can see its size and proportions more closely related to the human body.

http://www.hurstwic.org/history/article ... hields.htm
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I see now, they were able to cover the knees and neck in some stances.
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