Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
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Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Using axe to hack enemies and crush buildings
it costs 2 turns to create it
only can be created in barrack
HP 25,attack 15, speed 3, no armor (can be affected by blacksmith upgrade tech of course)
Have bonuses againts infantry 75% and building 125%
it costs 2 turns to create it
only can be created in barrack
HP 25,attack 15, speed 3, no armor (can be affected by blacksmith upgrade tech of course)
Have bonuses againts infantry 75% and building 125%
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
for 2 turn unit he has extremly big stats. waaaaay to big ones.
AoF Dev Co-Leadermakazuwr32 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Okay... you can change some stats or its costs to avoid the overpower symptoms
how if we change the attack to 6 or 7?
how if we change the attack to 6 or 7?
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
then he will be too similar to the celtic warriors.
also current axe thrower will be completely rebalanced soon.
also current axe thrower will be completely rebalanced soon.
AoF Dev Co-Leadermakazuwr32 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 amWhen you ask to change something argument why...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on...
© by Makazuwr32™.
- Lynx Shafir
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Actually a "barbar" unit with power range 1 and 3 cost wud be cool
May as a special nation unit.
May as a special nation unit.
Thy gave me a sword to pierce a lie,
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
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- godOfKings
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Sounds similar to viking berserker or the zwiehander with power range, I think axe can have high bonus on wagons and other wooden units though
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Actually, berserker doesn't have power range...
Just berserk, and a form of self healing.
Just berserk, and a form of self healing.
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Dont compare national units with normal units .
Normals most be more! This axe man is nice idea we can put this in new update beside new H. battle and units (new persian and greek units)
this axe man havs an ability:
Ability name:HIT FROM ABOVE
this ability helps axe man to hit shield and armored units nicely .. units like defender . Roman legion. Spartan. And others also i like GOD OF KINGS idea about wooden things . Hit from above ability 's symbol is a war axe
Normals most be more! This axe man is nice idea we can put this in new update beside new H. battle and units (new persian and greek units)
this axe man havs an ability:
Ability name:HIT FROM ABOVE
this ability helps axe man to hit shield and armored units nicely .. units like defender . Roman legion. Spartan. And others also i like GOD OF KINGS idea about wooden things . Hit from above ability 's symbol is a war axe
Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
A war axe like this
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Yes . This is nice too
leave the axes and focus on unit
leave the axes and focus on unit
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
1 or 2 handed axe?
- Lynx Shafir
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Two handed
Thy gave me a sword to pierce a lie,
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
i changed the two pictures to be external links instead of attachment uploads. (simply searched to the image on net and linked the first result)
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Axes were often cheaper than swords and considerably more available.
Great to weaken enemy armors
(1handed axe -long ,shield)
Cost 3 Nordic Hall
Hp 15
Attack 10(standard bonus to building, 25%infantry,cheap archer pikeman)
Passive :Armor break on hit - 1/1 armor
Speed 3
Arm 1/1
S res 0%
Best at taking down infantry, disrupting formations
Cost 4 Nordic Hall
Hp 18
Attack 14(trample) - 50%bonus to infantry ,
Power range 1
Action 1
Arm 2/0
Speed 3
Spell res 30%
Skill :whirlwide
8dmg
Both affected by blacksmith' armor and sword upgrades.
images coming soon
The Scandinavian bearded" axes or "skeggox" (so named for their trailing lower blade edge which increased cleaving power and could be used to catch the edge of an opponent's shield and pull it down, leaving the shield-bearer vulnerable to a follow-up blow). Viking axes were wielded with one hand or two, depending on the length of the plain wooden haft.
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Danish Axeman
Great to weaken enemy armors
(1handed axe -long ,shield)
Cost 3 Nordic Hall
Hp 15
Attack 10(standard bonus to building, 25%infantry,cheap archer pikeman)
Passive :Armor break on hit - 1/1 armor
Speed 3
Arm 1/1
S res 0%
- 2.Viking D Axeman
Best at taking down infantry, disrupting formations
Cost 4 Nordic Hall
Hp 18
Attack 14(trample) - 50%bonus to infantry ,
Power range 1
Action 1
Arm 2/0
Speed 3
Spell res 30%
Skill :whirlwide
8dmg
Both affected by blacksmith' armor and sword upgrades.
images coming soon
Thy gave me a sword to pierce a lie,
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Aren't hp a little low for melee units?
Maybe
1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp
Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...
Maybe
1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp
Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...
Beware the calm before the Tempest. . .
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Even with these HP, maceman still deals 30 dmg and kills both, how about they also have 4 speed considering they r lightly armored, then lynx's HP is acceptableStormSaint373 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:56 pm Aren't hp a little low for melee units?
Maybe
1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp
Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...
There is no place for false kings here, only those who proves themselves to b the true kings of legend, or serves under me
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
We all know mace man is the ultimate weapongodOfKings wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:54 pmEven with these HP, maceman still deals 30 dmg and kills both, how about they also have 4 speed considering they r lightly armored, then lynx's HP is acceptableStormSaint373 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:56 pm Aren't hp a little low for melee units?
Maybe
1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp
Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...
I'm not against rising hp a bit consider they are exclusive units
For speed boost I'm not sure (May with a group tech)
Therefore weak to arrows anyway
If snow and hill(if impleamented ) terrain
Gets movement penalty this two may be immune.
Thy gave me a sword to pierce a lie,
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
Standard Viking strategy against archer is charge with a shield and throw axe at close range like a skirmisher, all their weapons and armors r designed as light as possible to allow mad rush, wearing leather vests
There is no place for false kings here, only those who proves themselves to b the true kings of legend, or serves under me
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
May b the 4 turn one can have higher HP with 3 speed, if legion is armored tank, this should of assault with area dmg
There is no place for false kings here, only those who proves themselves to b the true kings of legend, or serves under me
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
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Thy gave me a sword to pierce a lie,
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
Serrated edge for the deamon inside
A moment I'm torn between two tides,
But all I need, I bear inside
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
That looks really awesome!!!!!! Lynx you nailed it, bit maybe perhaps make the shield more round and bigger? You know vikings had very beautiful round shields, perhaps you can try
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
They were beautiful but not that big in proportion to human size, lynx's looks fine.
They r mainly to cover head and above waist area from incoming volleys of arrows, not that effective against crossbow bolts or when flanked
They r mainly to cover head and above waist area from incoming volleys of arrows, not that effective against crossbow bolts or when flanked
There is no place for false kings here, only those who proves themselves to b the true kings of legend, or serves under me
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
For I watch over this world looking for those worthy to become kings, and on the way get rid of the fakes and rule over the fools
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
I wouldn't take a well done drawing as reality. Maybe search for a museum model instead, I expect those to be more historically accurate.
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This illustration was part of a larger series of historically accurate illustrations depicting the process of the anglo saxon invasion and the creation of england even though the argument is totally valid.
Heres a surviving example of a "viking" shield even though its no in great shape but there are more reproductions on the same website
https://sonsofvikings.com/blogs/history ... toric-look
Heres a surviving example of a "viking" shield even though its no in great shape but there are more reproductions on the same website
https://sonsofvikings.com/blogs/history ... toric-look
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In this other website if you scroll enough you will notice images depicting men carriying said shield in different manners, here you can see its size and proportions more closely related to the human body.
http://www.hurstwic.org/history/article ... hields.htm
http://www.hurstwic.org/history/article ... hields.htm
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Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)
I see now, they were able to cover the knees and neck in some stances.
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