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Re: Forum heroes
Ok, figured out that was power rng. But in all honesty Is rather see a lot of other units and techs I see ready to be implemented to in first before my guy because thoss are the ones I can use and build not forumers. So if my guy is so difficult to be put in with spells and stats and other stuff like the summon, then don't bother adding him or you'll hold up the update even more so just for one unit, and that's not worth it.
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Re: Forum heroes
I suggest for your hero lower damage to 1, lower attack range (if you have that) to 4 but add 2nd action and your main damage will be magic missle.Savra wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:08 am Savra v1.png
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Savra:
Cost:10
Hp:45
Atk:8
S.Rng:6 spell range? If yes than 6 is fine.
P.rng:4 and what is this? power range? AOE? if yes than it is too much.
Sight:6 sees invisible
Spd:2
Arm:2
P.arm:2
Res:100%
Abilities:
Magic missile:rng:6
Thunderstorm3-rng:6-aoe:3-dmg:same as thunderstorm as well as status effects.
Summon Gnoll Gaurdian5-rng:1
Lightning weapon3-rng:self- causes slowing 1.
Gnoll Guardian.png
Gnoll Guardian:
Hp:30
Atk:14 slowing weapon
Rng:1
Sight:4
Spd:4
Arm:1
P.arm:2
Res:10% gnolls aren't very bright.
Abilities:
Frenzy: rng:1 refer to Gnoll topic first page for details.
Also i suggest for you to remove lighting weapon ability. Instead add passive on-hit slowing 1 effect and power range 1. And for that you can use your attack. (This way you can apply up to 5 units slowing 1 via your attack and damage them for 1 point)
Also increase speed to 3.
How i think your stats must be:
I removed for now Frenzy from gnoll because i didn't find description what it does. Does it adds +30 damage at cost of -30/-30 armor? Or it adds +actions at cost of speed? What it does?Savra
Hp - 45
Attack - 1, passive slowing 1 weapon
Range - 4
Power range - 1 (this is aoe damage)
Actions/turn - 2
Armor - 2/2
Dodges - 15%/15%/100%
Speed - 3
Sight - 8 (can see invinsible)
Spell range - 6
Spell resist - 100%
Abilities:
Magic missle - normal, range - 6
Thunderstorm - same as elf wizard's one, but requires no upgrade.
Summon Gnoll Guard - melee range, cooldown - 4 turns.
Gnoll Guard:
Hp - 45
Attack - 18
Range - 1
Power range - 1
Armor - 2/3
Speed - 3
Sight - 5
Spell resist - 10%
Standart bonus to buildings.
Abilities:
Frenzy - adds +1 damage to all friendly gnolls in melee (1) range, stackable.
Also i increased stats for gnoll and lowered summon cooldown for it.
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Re: Forum heroes
I must say that many heroes can kill him still.
I can in range (he has no good healing, only 25 hp ones per 6 turns).
Your hero can in melee form (dispell yourself and damage him with each hit you will deal 64 - armor damage to him if no debuffs).
Midonik can (he is lancer-type cavalry with 2 range, he will deal 40 damage to alex and he also has 85 hp and 100% healing but he has 1 action/turn).
Last ability just activates for charge and bonus damage. +1 action is replacement for used action for activating this ability.
First aura doesn't affect himself.
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Frenzy:rng:1- aura- for every Gnoll based unit around this unit the unit gets +1 attack.http://www.androidutils.com/forum/viewt ... 4b508dfef4
As for power range the orc shaman has power range 4 check his stat page.
As for power range the orc shaman has power range 4 check his stat page.
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For enemies as well?
Or for allied ones only?
Power range 4 on orc shaman is a bug.
Or for allied ones only?
Power range 4 on orc shaman is a bug.
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Savra wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:23 pm Frenzy:rng:1- aura- for every Gnoll based unit around this unit the unit gets +1 attack.http://www.androidutils.com/forum/viewt ... 4b508dfef4
As for power range the orc shaman has power range 4 check his stat page.
makazuwr32 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:24 pm For enemies as well?
Or for allied ones only?
Power range 4 on orc shaman is a bug.
If nope for both than for whom?
And what range of ability? 1? 5? 9999999999999999?
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The frenzy affects allies that are gnolls. But we might omit that until the hostile neutral Gnolls get added. It would be like highborn training only Gnolls are only affected. Btw Gnolls are supposed to be fast and
powerful but the hp and armour could be lacking. Why do I have attack 1? That should be raised since I only have 3 spells for a mage.
powerful but the hp and armour could be lacking. Why do I have attack 1? That should be raised since I only have 3 spells for a mage.
Re: Forum heroes
A typical mages melee attack with a staff is an area attack that is meant to blow enemy's back not necessarily weak either. At least 6 damage would be fine since aoe doesn't seem to do much in my perspective.
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I know. But what range of that effect? 1 tile? 3? 27? 9999 (whole map)? Depending on this i will answer to you is it op or not. Highborn aura right now is op and broken.Savra wrote: ↑Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:45 pm The frenzy affects allies that are gnolls. But we might omit that until the hostile neutral Gnolls get added. It would be like highborn training only Gnolls are only affected. Btw Gnolls are supposed to be fast and
powerful but the hp and armour could be lacking. Why do I have attack 1? That should be raised since I only have 3 spells for a mage.
As for your hero - 1. I forgot to add in stats 2 actions/turn (my bad, fixed); 2. Your hero has magic missle spell that deals 10 raw damage regardless of enemy armors. And 2 actions.
Also basic attack of normal unit (doesn't matter mage is it or not) with staff is 1 tile. That only target you are attacking.
I changed your hero stats so basic attack is for applying slowing to packed groups of enemies while your main damage is magic missle.
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Think about your basic attack, @Savra, as your fourth, slowing 1 aoe spell.
You are throwing your pial with bloody glue to enemy with your main attack that on hit slows enemy. It ignores spell resist at all but units with dodge ranged can dodge this attack and won't be slowed.
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Frenzy is range 1 and that's it. I'll change any units frenzy range that is higher then that in Gnolls topic to 1 as well.
Re: Forum heroes
Alex stats look done so ill post in hero images and stats topic
Idk if your done tho sarva
Idk if your done tho sarva
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Re: Forum heroes
Lower Gnoll guardians up to 25
Speed 4
Arm's 1/2
Speed 4
Arm's 1/2
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I think gnoll guard must have a bit higher armor and hp at cost of speed. It is guard after all and must protect with its body its summon master.
We can explain this as "it is bound with magic to its master and infused with his master's energies. And because it became more healthy and powerful and its armor gain some protection enchantments. But because of its bigger body he became a bit slower than other part of gnoll pride"
We can explain this as "it is bound with magic to its master and infused with his master's energies. And because it became more healthy and powerful and its armor gain some protection enchantments. But because of its bigger body he became a bit slower than other part of gnoll pride"
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He didn't say his word about his stats yet.
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Yea too late, I can always change it until @Alexander82 put his stats up
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Sorry was busy, the Gnoll having enchanted equipment was correct but he's the same size as the other Gnoll champions since I had their template. But I guess I can agree with you here.
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Found put not to long ago our character descriptions has to be a lore one. I suggest some of you guys change it before someone else does
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Who for example?
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Savra's lore:
Savra is a mysterious wizard who wanders from place to place in search of something. Nothing much is known about were he came from or what the object is that he is looking for, all is known is that he has been to some of the gnoll tribes and recruited some of them to be his guardians.
Gnoll Gaurdian lore:
The gnoll gaurdians were recruited by Savra as personal body guards and were gifted with enchanted weapons and armour. Though they have powerful equipment and the such, Saves couldn't much game their Gnoll habits which include stealing, fighting, and burning things.
Savra is a mysterious wizard who wanders from place to place in search of something. Nothing much is known about were he came from or what the object is that he is looking for, all is known is that he has been to some of the gnoll tribes and recruited some of them to be his guardians.
Gnoll Gaurdian lore:
The gnoll gaurdians were recruited by Savra as personal body guards and were gifted with enchanted weapons and armour. Though they have powerful equipment and the such, Saves couldn't much game their Gnoll habits which include stealing, fighting, and burning things.
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Savra's lore:
Savra is a mysterious wizard who wanders from place to place in search of something. Nothing much is known about were he came from or what the object is that he is looking for, all is known is that he has been to some of the gnoll tribes and recruited some of them to be his guardians.
Gnoll Gaurdian lore:
The gnoll gaurdians were recruited by Savra as personal body guards and were gifted with enchanted weapons and armour. Though they have powerful equipment and the such, Saves couldn't much game their Gnoll habits which include stealing, fighting, and burning things.
Savra is a mysterious wizard who wanders from place to place in search of something. Nothing much is known about were he came from or what the object is that he is looking for, all is known is that he has been to some of the gnoll tribes and recruited some of them to be his guardians.
Gnoll Gaurdian lore:
The gnoll gaurdians were recruited by Savra as personal body guards and were gifted with enchanted weapons and armour. Though they have powerful equipment and the such, Saves couldn't much game their Gnoll habits which include stealing, fighting, and burning things.
Re: Forum heroes
Btw how about giving the Gnoll Guardians the maul ability? It's going to be given to the gnoll heavy units because the Gnoll brute is still being figured out... By me that is for now.
Maul - does 8 dmg and regenerate 4 hp.
Maul - does 8 dmg and regenerate 4 hp.
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We can give gnolls cannibalize ability that needs no research.
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I thought the maul ability would add more flavor to them. It would have same cool as the orcs poison weapon.
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1. Maul is not exclusive to gnolls only.
Dwarves, humans, orcs, undeads can use this as well.
2. It is strange for maul ability to deal damage and regenerade hp at the same time.
3. Better will fit for gnolls howl ability: nearby enemy in range 2 from unit will loose -1 attack and nearby gnoll ally will gain +1 attack, both effects will last 2 turns. Stackable, cooldown - 2 turns.
Dwarves, humans, orcs, undeads can use this as well.
2. It is strange for maul ability to deal damage and regenerade hp at the same time.
3. Better will fit for gnolls howl ability: nearby enemy in range 2 from unit will loose -1 attack and nearby gnoll ally will gain +1 attack, both effects will last 2 turns. Stackable, cooldown - 2 turns.
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I meant with their teeth, like a animal mauls it's prey. Gnolls are known to maul their enemys on occasions.
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Ah. Name it "Bite" than.
Deals 8 damage that is reduced by melee armor.
But no healing.
Deals 8 damage that is reduced by melee armor.
But no healing.
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