Dark citadel

[Savra]

A place were strange things happen. It has the power to raise soldiers within a matter of minutes and is capable of defending itself with the help of dark magics.
Cost: you decide
Hp:450
Atk:0
S.Rng:6-5
Sight:7
Arm:3
P.Arm:6.
Actions:2
Cap:4
Abilities:
Dark burst- dmg:8, cool:instant, rng:6, causes fear.
Reanimate- cool: instant - rng:5
2x2
Dark lord/Nemesis
Barron
Witch
Dark knight (not death knight)
Fell wing rider (not to be confused with the fellbeasts in lotr, these are zombie dragons being ridden by another version of the death knight.)
Any other?

[General Brave]

Definitely like this idea.

[General Brave]

S.Rng:6-5?

[Savra]

6 for dark bolt
5 for reanimation
Btw would adding a juggernaut with
Cost:8
Hp:85
Atk:20
Rng:1
Pwr:1
Arm:4
P.Arm:6
Speed:2
Sight:4
Res:80%
Bonus to buildings, infantry, cav.
Counts as giant, maybe could make it like the elemental in a way so disenchant damages it.
Dsc: The juggernaut is a giant metal automaton empowerd by dark magic to do their masters bidding on demolishing enemy forces.
Too much?

[General Brave]

dark bolt?

[General Brave]

6 for dark bolt
5 for reanimation
Btw would adding a juggernaut with
Hp:85
Atk:20
Rng:1
Pwr:1
Arm:4
P.Arm:6
Speed:2
Van:3
Sight:4
Res:80%
Dsc: The juggernaut is a giant metal automaton empowerd by dark magic to do their masters bidding on demolishing enemy forces.
Too much?

Perhaps a demon or heavily-armed Undead, I don't know about a automaton.

[Savra]

Ya changed the name but basically works like magic middle with a 20% side effect. I planned on using it for a phantom caster if the crossbow men doesn't make it in. This phantom would have served to take the place as phantoms ranged in that case with some other abilities.

[Savra]

6 for dark bolt
5 for reanimation
Btw would adding a juggernaut with
Hp:85
Atk:20
Rng:1
Pwr:1
Arm:4
P.Arm:6
Speed:2
Van:3
Sight:4
Res:80%
Dsc: The juggernaut is a giant metal automaton empowerd by dark magic to do their masters bidding on demolishing enemy forces.
Too much?

Perhaps a demon or heavily-armed Undead, I don't know about a automaton.

Basically it's like the phantoms, no gears of machinery because some descriptions of undead are as mindless automatons. It would be a giant walking suit of armour that doesn't last that long without any support vanishing wise.

[General Brave]

So it vanishes.

[Savra]

Yup. Giant vanishing phantom

[General Brave]

We will see what the others will think.

[Typhoon]

Good idea
Also

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Maybe that could be used as said juggernaut

[Lynx Shafir]

I like the Dark bolt attack.
Offensive magic attack for buildings and casters - damages all living creatures.

A tank unit is good idea but pls don't be a metal one.

[Savra]

Good idea
Also
Final.Behemoth...png
Maybe that could be used as said juggernaut

Maybe we some horns other then that it seems fine to me.

[Savra]

I like the Dark bolt attack.
Offensive magic attack for buildings and casters - damages all living creatures.

A tank unit is good idea but pls don't be a metal one.

The reason I chose a metal one is that it made since it you wanted higher armour, undead tokens can easily be spoken down by a fighter due to this weakness no matter the health. Besides when I think of juggernaut it's either a boat or a giant hunk of metal being powered by dark magic. Btw cool down for summon might be 5 or up.

[Typhoon]

Maybe we some horns other then that it seems fine to me.

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There also shaded a bit more

[General Brave]

Good, although I suggest another name instead of a phantom.
How about bone Golem.

[Savra]

Bone golems in the game already. Juggernaut seems fine because it's like a giant unstable phantom abomination. It also seems to match the stats a bit as well as provide undead with another big unit that requires the spirit towers to stay alive. It doesn't need to be called a golem to act like one a bit.

[General Brave]

But if it is a golem why should it be called a phantom.

[Savra]

No no what I mean is it could be like a golem but more so like a phantom is in style. Kinda like this image only keep your horn and armour colour style.

[General Brave]

Okay I understand.

[Savra]

Well I'm glad you do because I almost lost myself reading back over what I wrote.

[Savra]

Here's a dark bolt.

[General Brave]

I will make a prototype of the image

[Savra]

Did some tinkering on the Juggernaut.

[General Brave]

Okay now that is a juggernaut.

[Sunrise Samurai]

Make juggernaut a separate topic for a unit, named "phantom juggernaut" as an elite giant, like olog hai for the uruks.

[Savra]

Ologai are to uruks, as imperial knights are to imperials, and phantom swordmasters are to phwntoms. This is just a summonable, if you want it to be made to be closer to the battlefield I suggest something like a phantom caster or conjurer. Updated Juggernaghts stats.

[General Brave]

Perhaps we can make this something else.

[Sunrise Samurai]

Maybe I better put it this way. We can't have summons on the same strength level as elite troops. Vanishing is meaningless in undead, and best able to summon a 95 hp 20 power monstrosity every 3 turns that's immune to burning and very hard to slow is just op. The only saving factor is speed 2, but that kind of armor ensures it will eventually reach the battle anyway.