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Hp - 75
Attack - 16, 50% bonus to giants and infantries.
Range - 1
Armor - 6
P. Armor - 0
1 action/turn
Speed - 3
Spell resist - 50%
Abilities:
Vanishing 3.
Bile explosion - explode Butcher to do 10 damage to all units in 2 tiles range and poison them.
Plague aura - anti-healing aura that targets ALL living units including your and allied ones. Deals 4 damage at the beginning of affected unit's owner's turn. Has range of 3. Doesn't target any undead units.
Leaves after death normal corpse.
Immune to fire, gains double damage from poison. Counts as giant.

Upd. Added Plague aura.
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This is definitely Pudge from Dota :lol: can't u think of anything original and clever? :lol: (meant no offence tho)
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Not from DotA but from one of my favourite WC3 maps.
becides this IS original for AoF. ;)
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Actually in wc3 the abomination cannot throw hooks, only in dota they have the ability to throw hooks, at this rate I think age of Warcraft will get dissolved into AOF :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I didn't say that in original WC3.
I said
makazuwr32 wrote:from one of my favourite WC3 maps.
There was a Butcher boss in one of maps similar to the Diablo's one.
And from it this idea came.
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Don't go off topic pls
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Still i think that undeads need some another ways for gaining good units apart from summoning dragons and training.
and because of i think that this Butcher mecanic would be pretty intresting thing especially with the combo of Gargantuan zombies: you'll use zombie who raises another zombies to get them to your ghouls to create Butchers. and sometimes you can get a powerful Throwing-allies-at everyone-and-especially-at-buildings A-bit-larger-than-usual Gargantuan Zombie.
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Hi,
I tryed an image bit its more the zombie/ghoul
Crossover then a butcher. (Or atleast as my Imagination of a butcher in a fantasy topic)

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Image looks ok, althou i can't see the body parts very well
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Hi,
Im heavyli short-sighted so i can see everything clear, so what has to be more defined?

Is something too small?
Or is there not enough dark/light difference?
Or is Sonething deformed?

Where the exact problem?

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Im having trouble identyfing the chest and the head
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Hi,
Well its a ghoul soul wrappig around a chest.
The image contains nothing but chest and had!?
Maybe try to scale the image up in a pixel art programm and its more clear.

However i translated butcher more or less with a creature that slains tons of enemys with no effort in someone who massacres tons of enemys.

The other common translation is the guy who kills animals for making meat. I nade a war ready version for it.

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Personally i thought about something like this:
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Or this:
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But without horns.
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Chek my second image wich i posted while you wrote your post. It fots your inspiration.

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Maybe a bit larger?
64x32 size?
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Updated stats.

Also can someone make a bigger version of this image?
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Made a small, but significant change. Just added legs to it :lol:
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that looks much better.
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Far better looking with legs.
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The previous one looked like an arachnid whit tiny spider legs.
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2 tiles is not op for the explosion? I think 1 but in a square around it would be enough.
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1. all fireballs have same range.
2. 2 tiles away from this unit. range is same as any unit with range 2 of attack. also range of spell itself is 0.
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Basically he will hurt himself.
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he kills himself in that explosion. you are sacrificing him for that.
also this effect applies on death of this unit and when he vanishes away.
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So like a goblin.
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not exactly - goblin just hurts himself this one kills himself (deals 1000 damage to himself) for this ability with range 0. this ability autoapplies when he dies/vanishes.
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I see.
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Where's trained./gained?
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You can't train it you must use 1 ghoul and 4 zombies to create it. Plus a research.
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