(Defender) Upgrade for the shielder - IMPLEMENTED
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(Defender) Upgrade for the shielder - IMPLEMENTED
I was thinking of an upgrade for the shielder.
It should just be a slow but anti-ranged infantry unit
It should just be a slow but anti-ranged infantry unit
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+1
(But I don't think the name is very good )
(But I don't think the name is very good )
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Yep. It was just a try. I'm open to suggestions
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What about Hoplites
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Good idea! It shielders are very unused right now.
I think "hoplites" may cause confusion.
I think "hoplites" may cause confusion.
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Daniel can you move the topic in the infantry section? My mistake
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I also would raise the base shielder speed to 3. It is also weaker than a normal swordman isn't it?Hp: 26
attack: 9
Armor: 2
Pierce armor: 6
Speed: 3
Sight: 4
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No. It is balanced to the swordman now. If his speed were 3, he would be way stronger than the swordman.
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Even with reduced attack?
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If his attack was much lower than the swordman's he would be useless. Remember, he has waaaay more armor than the swordman and costs the same.
The reason he was slower, is because he has more armor to weigh him down.
The reason he was slower, is because he has more armor to weigh him down.
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then similar attack, more armor and slower movement?
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Only similar attack and more armorm Slower movement will make it useless. One of the reason why people dont use shielders are because they are slow. Making them slowing will make them useless.Alexander82 wrote:then similar attack, more armor and slower movement?
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That's true, they should get much more armor and hp to become at least "guardians" for tcs
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That sounds good.
What should the name be?
What should the name be?
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Good. By seeing that also the halberdier is having a 2nd upgrade i'm thinking that we might do a
Shielder->Defender->Guardian
Shielder->Defender->Guardian
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how's that?
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Looks pretty good. I think though the Guardian will be undefeatable. Most units will only to put max 3 damage on him which will allow him to take like 10 hits. We should put the normal armor to 2 for the Defender and then 3 or 4.
Let's start with planning the Defender before we go to the Guardian. Do you have an image idea for him? I was thinking like using the broadswordsman as a base with a slightly larger version of the shielder's shield.
Let's start with planning the Defender before we go to the Guardian. Do you have an image idea for him? I was thinking like using the broadswordsman as a base with a slightly larger version of the shielder's shield.
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Sorry, Endru, I didn't read your post and I have proposed "Defender" one more timeEndru1241 wrote:Maybe "Defender"
As you all can see, this is perfect name!
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I think that we might just add the shielder's shield to current units and see how it looks
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LolHokanPL wrote:Sorry, Endru, I didn't read your post and I have proposed "Defender" one more timeEndru1241 wrote:Maybe "Defender"
As you all can see, this is perfect name!
Good idea!Alexander82 wrote:I think that we might just add the shielder's shield to current units and see how it looks
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Done, i also uploaded the original shielder image for a comparison
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Also in these versions shield is slightly higher
I prefer the previous versions, but this is more similar to the original position, i think.
Also in these versions shield is slightly higher
I prefer the previous versions, but this is more similar to the original position, i think.
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The images looks nice but i think it will look better if they had thiner swords. They currently look like they have a high attack because of thier swords
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These are the original blades of the units, moreover the units have just -2 attack compared to their counterparts
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Awesome units guys )
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Great images!
That may be right, in that they are very dissimilar to the ones used by the Shielders. Could you try editing the swords? Maybe change the hilt to be like the original shielder's? Or thin the tip of the blade?Darkknight wrote:The images looks nice but i think it will look better if they had thiner swords. They currently look like they have a high attack because of thier swords
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That wouldn't be a great problem, i can just paste that one on it, i just thought it was pointless.
The first shielder is basically a swordman unit with a big shield and defender/guardian are just the shielded version of broadswordman and man at arms, i think they are better with the original weapon. If you still think i should make some with thinner sword i'll make you tomorrow.
The first shielder is basically a swordman unit with a big shield and defender/guardian are just the shielded version of broadswordman and man at arms, i think they are better with the original weapon. If you still think i should make some with thinner sword i'll make you tomorrow.
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I feel that the soldier in shielder is parallel to the shield while the defender/gaurdian are both slightly in a different orientation . I feel due to this they look a bit wierd
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