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heavy horse archer-ridiculously unbalanced. - IMPLEMENTED

Post by TheBluePhoenix » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:45 am

The horse archer upgrade is just unbeatable at present.even halberdiers and heavy lancers are useless against it completely.they need heavy bonuses against it.and heavy archer upgrade pierce and armour bonus also need to be decreased
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Re: heavy horse archer-ridiculously unbalanced.

Post by Alexander82 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:24 am

i think it's just a matter of bonus from the anti cavalry units. Armor and pierce were just 2 as far as i remember, just like other heavy cavalry
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Post by TheBluePhoenix » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:16 am

Yes maybe.
because i am playing a game against a multiplayer with a swarm of upgraded horse archers.he researched some armour techs and know my halberdier does only 2 damage on it! I mean whatever upgrade he may have , an anti cavalry unit of same level should atleeast reduce its health to half.
Dev reply soon else this will make this upgrade extremely op.at present , with fully researched armour tech the horse archer upgrade recieves-
-2 hp frm hb attack
-8 hp from heavy knight attack
-8 hp from heavy lancer attack
-8 hp from man of arms
Clearly the redns in hp should haave been about-
-13 hp
- 10hp
-13 hp
-10 hp
respectively
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Post by Alexander82 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:49 am

If they are fully upgraded it's normal that is hard to kill. It's probably a bonus issue.
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Post by TheBluePhoenix » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:46 am

As i said , even after upgrade a cavlry unit should be easily injured by an anti cavalry unit.it may be hard to kill but the unit should not become completely useless as is with halberdier.
Yea its a bonus issue. Halberdier should have at least 200% bonus against it.but even then he will be quite weak. I have suggested the approx. Damage that it should do after upgrade also( i have edited it)
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Re: heavy horse archer-ridiculously unbalanced.

Post by Alexander82 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:21 am

We should balance anti cavalry to kill it in max 2 turns
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Post by TheBluePhoenix » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:01 pm

Agree completely
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Post by TheBluePhoenix » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:36 am

Dev what do u think??
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:15 pm

this must be a bug in setting of the bonus - i will check.

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Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:23 pm

Halberdier anti cavalry bonus on heavy horse archer is fixed, up on server in 10! thanks!

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Post by TheBluePhoenix » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:09 pm

What about lancer , heavy knight, man of arms? They are also very weak
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:51 pm

please give specific stat change suggestion. i can not get it from above written values. thanks!
also lancer bonus was also fixed with the halberdiear (all anty cavalry has been fixed)

maybe a hp decreasing on heavy horse archer? eg -5hp? and also having only 1/1 armors?

update: i saw that it had 2/2 armors but upgrading is not used to increase armors - so i removed all armors from heavy horse arher - is it ok now? (up on server in 10 minutes)

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Post by COOLguy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:01 pm

I think the heavy Lancer has +armors when he is upgraded form normal Lancers. Should we change that too?
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:03 pm

no, lancer originally had 2 armors as i see.

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Post by COOLguy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:12 pm

Oh okay. :)
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Post by TheBluePhoenix » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:58 am

Ok i will try it
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Re: heavy horse archer-ridiculously unbalanced.

Post by Alexander82 » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:28 am

Well, in that case i think it had some sense, being more armored than the original horse archer.
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Post by Stratego (dev) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:12 pm

was this discussion closed?

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Post by COOLguy » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:42 pm

I am satisfied, and have not heard anything for a long time.
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Re: heavy horse archer-ridiculously unbalanced. - ANSWERED

Post by TheBluePhoenix » Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:49 am

Well but it was not answered, it was implemented....
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