Saber tooth rider — ARCHIVED

[Savra]

Fast orc ranger hunters who ride ferocious sabertooths into battle equipped with throwing axes.
Cost: 4
Hp:28,33,38
Atk:6,7,8
Rng:3,4,5
Speed:4,5,6
Arm:0,1,2
P.Arm:0,1,2
Actions:2
Res:0%
Same bonuses as the axe thrower ork. Just went through human and orc cav to try and get it a little tolerable, what you think?

[makazuwr32]

No.
Cav unit that destroys buildings?! with speed 6, 38 hp and 5 range?

This will destroy balance.

[General Brave]

Pretty sure the Wolves Riders already do that.

[makazuwr32]

Wolf riders don't have bonuses to buildings like axe throwers. he wants a ranged unit with same bonuses as axe thrower - to buildings.

Also another "no" is that i really don't like idea of ranged mounted unit for now. elves are exeption because they must be masters of range.

[General Brave]

Perhaps we don't need that, maybe could be used for something else.

[Savra]

Well, I can understand this being a problem so, if asking for it to be something else later on what would the thought be? Take away all the other stats/upgrades and just make it a speedy support unit of just hold off till further info?

[Savra]

Btw by support O keen prolly a shaman who would be like a missionary only with different ability's and weaker potions then a shaman

[makazuwr32]

also saber tooth tigers i wanted to keep for elves.

[General Brave]

A support mage?

[makazuwr32]

Panthers will become mounts for elven protectors (i have in mind 2) and saber tooth riders for their archers.

[General Brave]

I'm guessing we bringing back extinct creatures, where should the woolly mammoth go.

[makazuwr32]

Dwarves.
Dwarven Battle priest at least must ride one.

[General Brave]

We should probably use the elephants as the base.

[makazuwr32]

yea. but more browny and wooly.

[Savra]

I thought elves would ride forestry creatures like tigers, sabertooths riders seemed to me as a match to orcs do to the way orcs act and feel. But if it is added to elves I'd like it to be a sentinels mount that would make sense for the heavy armour sentinels were in terms of elves.

[General Brave]

[Lynx Shafir]

I need a Mammoth for the Undeads - in cursed mine.
(Not mounted)

[Tankhead]

What's its bonus gonna be? What im really steering towards is does this unit have good bonus damage towards mounted units?

[General Brave]

We have to make the Dwarf one first.

[makazuwr32]

That image is taken from AoS - Indian Mahout.
elven protector (mounted sentinel) will be heavy lancer unit type.

[General Brave]

What are we talking about?

[Lynx Shafir]

About 4 different unit

[General Brave]

And what are they.

[Lynx Shafir]

Orc-sabertooth
Elf - panther rider
Undead - skull mammoth
Dwarf - Mammoth rider
Any more?

[makazuwr32]

....
Dwarf - not mammoth rider. for now at least. it is Dwarven Battle priest
Elf - Elven Protector (mounted on sabertooth variant of elf sentinel)

Skull mammoth a bit later.
Sabertooth rider of orcs is denied. 1. orcs have already great cavalry 2. in this variant it is ranged inti-building cavalry which is really bad for balance idea.

[General Brave]

Ok.

[Savra]

What about mountain goats for dwarfs like in the hobbit battle of the five army's? As maybe scouts of something...

[General Brave]

I don't think that would be fast but perhaps maybe mountain climbing.

[Tankhead]

You guys should make separate topics since the main topic here is sabertooth rider

[General Brave]

Yes.