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Fortification
Spectrel tower:
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Cost:0
Hp:125
Atk:0
S.rng:5
Sight:6 can see invisible
Cap:2
Heal:4
Arm:3
P.arm:8
Abilities:
Soul harvest - aura - dmg:6, -1/-1 armour to living flesh & blood units within range. (Yours including)
Transform

Tower golem:
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Van:3
Hp:90
Atk:20
Aoe:1
Rng:1
Sight:5
Spd:2, water:1
Arm:3
P.arm:8
Res:40%
Abilities:
Shambling: passive: aura.r:1, if unit receives damage, all units within range 1 of unit receives 5 damage, effected by armour.
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I Will be thinking of one for elves that would be another summon based one but a bit more stronger. Right now basing a tower off of a races specialty would probably be are best at to go if making a special tower.
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Ignoring resistance covert seems like something too strong. Maybe with a 4 turn cooldown and cost of a about human's fortress it would be acceptable.
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I like idea actually but not for tower. Instead i wanted to see posession ability for banshee with self destruction.

So she will become sort of mummy but converting one. Also she can't posess 100% spell resist units.
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What about shade instead? Right now it only is good for sabatoge.
As for tower it was supposed to be like the fortress. When the goblin tower comes in, I expect the stone shelter to be put like the fortress as well.

Besides this, I originally thought of just making it summon a ghost that can possess its target on sacrifice of its own life. It would have a cool though.
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Not for banshee but an other unit.
May be a summon.from a Wolf den like structure

(btw can put banshee to dark altar?
Since its removed from crypt..)


wraith s will be different so may specter/ ghost-common name.

Needs to think up stg.


(The flesh tower should be next in..)
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Why not for a banshee?
They are actually known for posession properties sometimes.
Of course not as initial ability but instead as researchable one.

As for this tower instead i suggest for it to add s"oul hunting" aura that will affect all flesh&blood units (including your ones) in wide range dealing them passive damage and reducing armor while they are inside its aura.
I think 6 armor-ignoring damage + substraction -1/-1 armor in 7 tiles from this tower will be good enough.

If you'll agree than stats must be raised a bit but no carry capacity for tower.
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That could work.

As for possession the shade lacks any other form of uses besides sabatoge, and an only be used through the crypt. The ability would still need research but who gets it is another story.

If anyone else wants it for the banshee though then we can give it to her. But we would still need a new topic for the ability as well as a tech and ability image.
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Should we maybe lower range to 5? It does effect every unit within range, and do you mean living flesh and blood units because undead have undead ones. (Zombies, vampires) I don't think this could effect dead things.
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Wasn't shade's cost one?
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They cost 2.
Have no attack, are invisible, can go over water.
This would make units and towers that can see invisible a little more useful.
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Well... I guess both will do.
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Could work.
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I don't like this for shade becuase it is invinsible.

As for ability of tower zombies are undead units as well as vamps. But this ability will affect the veil cultists.
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Hmm this New approach can work..

Make it interesting

A.
Summon a spectre every 3 turns with vanishing 3⌛


B.

On death summons a permanent ghost.

Stg like this for permanent

NOT THIS STATS THOUGH!
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I don't like idea for this exact tower additional abilities as addition to aura. Any abilities.

Only aura (this aura is actually pretty powerful because it will ignore spell resist and armor of enemies but it must be non-stackable).

If you want summoning tower for undeads i think it is not nessesary because they already get many intresting and powerful tower suggestions:
Corrupted clocktower
Bone pile (buildable grave digger)
Don't remember name but tower with raise dead ability.
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Necro tower I believe, but yes the aura is quite powerful alone, it should be fine with some stat adjustments.
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Yes. I think that this tower must be more powerful than others in terms of toughness.
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Spectral tower =spectres.. u got it.
Somehow need a ghost summon defence -
.

This is stg they don't have

They have rise dead and dig dead
are already possibilities.


The *on death summon a spectre wudnt be bad
It's a costlier tower.
Has no carry.
Guess it's burnable


The cloctower concept was changed
And that one has a similar aura like this.


. Additional we can make the effect to affect ghost too as new category
-(useful between undead fights)
U_GHOST
Draining spiritual energies from em too.

And I want a "basic" tech what required to start develop in ghost lines.
May the summon will unlock after that.
With CD 4.


As for summon specte on death(tower)
I insist ;)
u will like it
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No. No summon towers for undeads.
Corrupted clocktower regenerates units around (or did that changed? Did i miss that change??)
This tower releases hunting spectres for living units in area around itself.
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Anyway what design for this..?
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makazuwr32 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:09 am As for this tower instead i suggest for it to add "soul hunting" aura that will affect all flesh&blood units (including your ones) in wide range dealing them passive damage and reducing armor while they are inside its aura.
I think 6 armor-ignoring damage + substraction -1/-1 armor in 7 tiles from this tower will be good enough.

If you'll agree than stats must be raised a bit but no carry capacity for tower.
As for stats:
Hp - 90
Attack - 0
Armor - 3/10, can't burn (spectres prevent all fire of tower alas all units with burning will do bonus damage to it).
Sight - 7 (can see invisible — souls feel everyone!)
Spell resist - 100%
Carry capacity - 0
Construction rate: -10%
Mending rate: +50%
Can't be built in forests.
Abilities:
Soul hunting (aura) — deals 6 damage/turn and substracts -1/-1 armor from all flesh&blood units (including your own and allies!). Range of aura - 6 tiles.
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This could be an example, lighting could be the team colour.
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Sorry, forgot the image.
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I'll make one.. Once

Now it's not so urgent
(just to don't work in vain)
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Speaking of this...
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Soul harvest ability sounds more like hp draining in my opinion
how about it will drain 5 hp with duration of 5 turns and another 4 turns to recharge that ability
of course effect will be non stackable and will be great for protecting important objectives
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Uhm. Souls from this tower hunt flesh&blood units always. They don't need any spell/ability/cooldown and because it is aura. But they can't fly far away from tower and because there is range of aura.
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I don't like this img
Try a tower alone.
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Will update stats later.
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