Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:38 am

No.
Zombie swarmer must be unit on its own.
Mutant zombie as well (it also has higher cost than other zombies).
Normal zombie has now 1 turn cost.

I don't like in general idea of auxillary units because actually it is a bit harder to balance than when they are trainable normally.
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Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:51 am

Soo, what sets them apart from. Skeletons?
In other words what benefits can someone get from this over a simple skeleton and what benefits does a simple skeleton have that these don't.

So far I think its:
Skeletons:
Pros-
Walk through water
Have more upgrades
Have cavalry
Have higher attack
Makes uses of corpses on map

Cons-
Can burn


Zombies:
Pros-
Cheap
Can poison
Not effected by burn, chill, and poison
Can make more zombies through poison
Makes use of corpses on map

Cons-
Can't move through water
Weaker in certain ways
Less bonus to enemies

Is this correct?

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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:20 am

Yes.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:25 am

Ok. So now we just need 2 more zombies and this is ready.

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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:29 am

Zombie Crawlers?
The ones with have a body that grab for your legs
( annoying in games )
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:33 am

I think he meant images.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:34 am

Yes images.

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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:39 am

Whoops :lol:
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:20 pm

Alright here's all the images we have so far all together.
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:23 pm

*laughs* That's really cool!

Are there gonna be any more images?
Tankhead wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:29 am
Zombie Crawlers?
The ones with have a body that grab for your legs
( annoying in games )
That would be cool
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:42 pm

I don't see one image of them. First one.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:46 pm

I will come up with stats if someone could create an image.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:49 pm

StormSaint373 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:23 pm
*laughs* That's really cool!

Are there gonna be any more images?
Tankhead wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:29 am
Zombie Crawlers?
The ones with have a body that grab for your legs
( annoying in games )
That would be cool
StormSaint373 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:46 pm
I will come up with stats if someone could create an image.
No need for that.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:52 pm

Zombie Crawler

Recruit: same as other zombies
Cost: 1
Attack: 3 (slowing weapon) grabs at legs
Range: 1
Speed: 2 (no legs)
Armor: 0/2
Vision: 4
Actions/Turn: 1
Dodges: 0%/20%/0 (hard to hit from a distance)
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:54 pm

StormSaint373 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:52 pm
Zombie Crawler

Recruit: same as other zombies
Cost: 1
Attack: 3 (slowing weapon) grabs at legs
Range: 1
Speed: 2 (no legs)
Armor: 0/2
Vision: 4
Actions/Turn: 1
Dodges: 0%/20%/0 (hard to hit from a distance)
makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:49 pm
StormSaint373 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:23 pm
*laughs* That's really cool!

Are there gonna be any more images?
Tankhead wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:29 am
Zombie Crawlers?
The ones with have a body that grab for your legs
( annoying in games )
That would be cool
StormSaint373 wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:46 pm
I will come up with stats if someone could create an image.
No need for that.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:54 am
Please when you ask to change something argument why do you want that change. ...
Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:55 pm

Sorry, didn't see that post. :oops:
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:19 pm

Is this ready?
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:31 pm

Needs approvement of alex.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:30 pm

Zombie dragon is on first page, bottom.
Here's the mutant.
Go ahead and add the gargantuan zombie and mutant, others I still need to give fly's.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:30 am

Updated.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:24 pm

Maybe, we should give the mutant zombie the ability to explode into a poisonous cloud on death to signify the magic instability.

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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:28 pm

That would be flavorful, have it be a result of poisonous corpse tech maybe.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:46 pm

All zombies will have that as researchable passive on death.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:57 pm

Alright that's all of them.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:03 pm

What IS that thing exactly, a small degenerated zombie?
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:12 pm

Yes. It is swarm zombie with higher than normal zombies speed.
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:52 pm

Well, all we need is stat page to be updated to include basic poison arrows for the archer and this is done.
Also add images their for quick adding.

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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:42 pm

Who can do that?
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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by Savra » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:56 pm

Makazuwru.

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Re: Undead Update Part 2. Zombie update.

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:48 pm

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