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Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:40 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
StormSaint373 wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:24 pm
It is a percent chance.

The most powerful of necromancers were able to summon creatures more powerful than vampires to do their bidding.
Besides, AI don't use mansion units like vampires a lot, would be nice to spice things up.

If you are adamant, what would you suggest?

Plague Priest isn't in yet...
Well if you put it like that, yes it sounds good enough, so we are done with this guy right?

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:04 pm
by StormSaint373
Not yet, he needs an image.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:23 pm
by StormSaint373
This unit is now in a different subject, Lich King

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:55 pm
by Savra
Did yours involve vampires? If so then he could be called a arc necromancer. Lich King was based off of lich a bit.
This one seems based off of necromancer.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:57 pm
by Savra
Btw, maybe replace the regeneration with some other form of heal?

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:55 pm
by StormSaint373
Like what? Regeneration 50% or standard heal?

Undead Currently have NO healing to speak of, at least until Plague Priest is implemented.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:45 pm
by Savra
Their are some more healers for them too, check out the aura buildings. 100% regeneration should be left to orcs and maybe scaledfolks, and maybe also the frost fire dwarves. They all have shamans so they make use of herbs. Undead should have a creative healing thing like maybe

Corpse heal: takes a corpse and mends a undead with 50% healing

Pain and regen: dmgs used 4 and heals target 10

Dark regeneration - heals target for 30% of hp.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:49 pm
by StormSaint373
Probably Dark Regen, easiest to code.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:50 pm
by StormSaint373
High Necromancer

Hp: 24
Attack: 8
Range: 1
Armor: 1
Pierce: 1
Speed: 3
Vision: 5
Action/Turn: 1

Spells: ...

Dark Regeneration: 30%
Advanced Reanimation
Curse: Range 6, duration 3 turns
Strengthen: others only, range 4

Feedback is welcome... What other spells would this high Necromancer need

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:01 pm
by Savra
Ummm, curse seems much better then rotten, they both are affected by spell resist so maybe figure something else out for one of those 2 spells?

Maybe go with something like this:

Dark regeneration
Curse
Advanced reanimation
Disenchant

Undead could use disenchant the most out of everyone.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:06 pm
by StormSaint373
Undead have disenchant on skeleton mages.
And dark Regeneration is already on the list.
So the best course of action is Advanced animation.

Edited.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:08 pm
by Savra
They don't really need strengthen or doublestrike, might get rid of double strike and keep strengthen though.
Or take the 2 on the orc loch topic.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:10 pm
by StormSaint373
Are there any other units that should be added to the Denizens of the Deep Expansion, or is it finished and ready to suggest to Alexander82?

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:11 pm
by StormSaint373
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Savra wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:08 pm
They don't really need strengthen or doublestrike, might get rid of double strike and keep strengthen though.
Or take the 2 on the orc loch topic.
Edited

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:13 pm
by StormSaint373
What does those do?

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:03 pm
by Savra
Ones a new form of strengthen, the other is a new form of lifelink I think.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:13 pm
by StormSaint373
If we are going to put those abilities with the high Necromancer, I suggest that we use pre-existing abilities first then modify in later versions.

It is currently taking forever to get undead units in due to many reasons.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:42 pm
by StormSaint373
Can @Lynx Shafir or @Savra do images for the denizens of the Deep?

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:16 pm
by Savra
StormSaint373 wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:13 pm
If we are going to put those abilities with the high Necromancer, I suggest that we use pre-existing abilities first then modify in later versions.

It is currently taking forever to get undead units in due to many reasons.
All they are is new pics.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:21 pm
by StormSaint373
Oh! Ok.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:53 pm
by StormSaint373
I meant to ask you if you would draw the units for the Denizens of the Deep

Ie:

Darkling
Matron
Hive Abomination
Sanguine Servant
Arch Necromancer

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:59 pm
by Savra
I'll see about what I can do.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:43 am
by General Brave
I have to read through this later and put my thoughts on it.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:41 pm
by StormSaint373
Sure!

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:27 pm
by StormSaint373
Edited Reference images

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:25 pm
by Savra
Due to one of your arch necromancer images I came up with an idea for his spawns:

Shadow minion:
Hp:18
Atk:8 lifelink
Rng:1
Sight:6
Spd:4
Arm:0
P.arm:1
Res:40%

And he has a chance to spawn the abomination.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:31 pm
by StormSaint373
Looks good, Savra.
Is it like this?

I changed it back to Leviathan. I looked through undead entries and saw at least half a dozen abomination suggestions.

You able to do image?

Image:

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:31 pm
by StormSaint373
Looks good, Savra.
Is it like this?

I changed it back to Leviathan. I looked through undead entries and saw at least half a dozen abomination suggestions.

You able to do image?

https://www.google.com/search?q=nwn+sha ... LYhG6sl-2M

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:42 pm
by Savra
Sure.

Re: Denizens of the Deep (Undead)

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:25 pm
by StormSaint373
Here are images