Hypnotic specter mtg DISCUSSING

[Stratego (dev)]

i think it is ok, it can be balanced this way too. (will this have more action points?)

[Alexander82]

Yes I can see the difference.

When you add production points then the player will switch units and start producing the same unit again without the added turns if he is clever.

Cease production just means no production point advancement the next turn.

exactly

[Stratego (dev)]

if it has 1 attack it would be exactly the same (4 tun unit will be again 4 turn to build - so actually it skips one turn of "decrement"

but whatever

[Sunrise Samurai]

Let me take a slightly different approach here

Cost 4
Hp 10
Power 0
Armor 0
Speed 4
Stealth
Spell: sabotage (cooldown​ 3, inflicts disrupt status on target factory in range 3)

The sabotage status prevents a building from attacking and production countdown for 2 turns.

Effectively, one of these can prevent a single factory from producing 2 turns out of 3. At least until it gets caught. The status is pretty distinctive, so it isn't likely an opponent will let it go without rushing a scout to the area to find and kill the spectre. Also useful for disabling a critical defensive building for a moment as you attack.

[Alexander82]

if it has 1 attack it would be exactly the same (4 tun unit will be again 4 turn to build - so actually it skips one turn of "decrement"

but whatever

Sorry what you mean?

[LordOfAles]

So good image wasted on sabotaging...

[Ayush Tiwari]

To Justice

I see this unit is quite well to keep in(lol,the name sounded like hypnotism)
What are we waiting for in this?

[General Brave]

?

[Lynx Shafir]

IS possible that a target lose accuracy?

[General Brave]

I'm pretty sure it can.

[makazuwr32]

Only against units that unit has no bonus to.
For example Dwarf Rifleman (current one) never can hit any target you set exept ones which are in the list. And those ones will be hit for 100% regardless of miss chance and dodge ranged chance.

[Lynx Shafir]

Than I need different approach
hmmm....

[makazuwr32]

This is bound in the mechanic because otherwise troll headhunters would be against elves the ultimate unit (especially master ones with 50% dodge ranged). But at least fire archers could hit them with 100%.

[Menselot]

why not ?

[makazuwr32]

Alexander82's image is a bit better)
(On the first page)

[Menselot]

lol i just added a spooky green mist.

[LordOfAles]

Eas1er tq cqmpare.

[Lynx Shafir]

The image reminds me strongly of Phantom units
If will be stealth unit don't needs armor,
Neither in stats nor in apparence.

Some hipnosys skill would be good.

[General Brave]

Perhaps it should be part of them.

[Lynx Shafir]

Is more like a caster, but surely not warrior.
I Don't like it's current look at all.

[Stratego (dev)]

check the first post of the topic, in mtg it is exatly like this.

[Lynx Shafir]

Ok, so is capable fighter too.
Still I think needs some change on armor may darken a bit.
And a dark mist as legs. (change weapon angle so can see its "legs")
Glowing eyes..

Its currently too similar to phantom. Imho

[LordOfAles]

Lol he has no legs he is a wraith. It might resemble phantom a bit but they are easy enough to differentiate.

[Savra]

Can we give this some other abilities of uses too? The shade can sabotage as well remember and only for 2 cost, maybe having an aura that stops all enemy production or giving it some other style uses (like making it an assassin) would make it more useful for undead and more worth the cost.

[Savra]

Basically keep ability and give it the assassin instant kill attack as a side so if gets spotted or something it has the option to kill at least 1 target.

[Savra]

Bumping this back up, personally I think one of the Undeads strengths should be stealth as well because they have ghosts which are practically see through so why not?

It would expand the usage of the crypt by adding a stealth purpose to it.

Unlike elves who need to research a sub race for this job, Undead could just have it as apart of their main race.

This unit would be the first (besides the shades) of that expansion. Undead are known for sneak attacks.

[Typhoon]

Rebump this seems forgotten a bit

[makazuwr32]

Later, after finishing with dwarves and scaledfolks, i will work on undeads.