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Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:31 pm
by Lynx Shafir
I prefer the "mount" way - instead of trainable ones.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:36 pm
by StormSaint373
Can it be coded like a siege tower,

Have them occupy space, like ents or rams, and be allowed to shoot from their eagle mounts that way.

See in game already. Why not.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:43 pm
by makazuwr32
No. Another reason for "mounting" is to add dodge ranged and increase health to eagles and to increase damage for mounted archer.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:43 am
by Savra
Can I get the quick archer, eagle, archer, and fire archer for this? I'll just do it so it can be done finally.

Also, I've been meaning to ask this but I wonder if allowing the elf sentry to also ride these would be too much?

They ain't too heavy because eagles are strong and AOF ones are actually pretty big.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:36 am
by makazuwr32
No sentry would be too much. It is powerful enough by himself already.

As for images:
32_unit_elf_fast_archer.png
unit_elf_fire_archer.png
32_unit_elf_archer.png
32_unit_elf_eagle.png

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:15 am
by Savra
Done.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:47 am
by godOfKings
how about make image 64 pix high and put eagle a few pixels higher so that there is gap between it and its shadow, indicating that it is actually flying, give same changes to original eagle image too

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:40 am
by makazuwr32
Uhm stratego won't approve this. Archers must actually RIDING eagles.
Stratego (dev) wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:54 pm
makazuwr32 wrote:I can do similar to this with two others if i'll find good originals.
Can someone help with images of Fire archer and Elf archer?
nice try but is not that good so we can use this - as it is only a montage.
we can not make these images by simply montaging.

you need to draw them "together" after montagign
Stratego (dev) wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:42 pm i mean it looks as itis montaged, as it really is. so you need to blend them to make it a real rider
Also fire archer requires her animation back.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:02 am
by Savra
There goes easy way, oh well, time to work on new style.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:42 am
by Lynx Shafir
Well

Image

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Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:42 am
by Alexander82
Can you make the leg less straight?

the knees should be bent or they will look too unnatural

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:52 am
by Alexander82
makazuwr32 wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:30 pm Mounted on Eagle Elf Archer/Quick Archer/Fire archer
Stats:
33 Hp
0/0 armor
7/6/5 damage (for elf/quick/fire archer respectively, gain +1 to their damage because they can shoot more deadly from above.)
6/5/4 range (for elf/quick/fire archer respectively)
5 Speed (4, if appllied my Revamp of Eagles)
9 sight.
Can't get armor upgrades, but can gain Bowcraft upgrades and dodge arrows upgrades.
Also loses Self Heal from Lembas upgrade.

To get this unit you need Eagle, preferred Archer near it and a research "Mounting"
After mounting Eagle loses movement in this turn.

And elves will have something for a mid/late game...

Upd.:
Revamp of Eagles
I think that they should keep their own range if not increase it (but since they will have a speed upgrade and flying it would be probably unneeded).
I would keep the same speed of the base eagle (I understand the extra weight but we might consider that they are light and nimble units)
Ok for the extra damage (even a bit higher) and I would make them affected by armor upgrades

I would remove precision shot upgrades (they are shooting from a longer distance if we count the height too) and consider removing the dodge effects since the movement is made by the eagles.

I would give them higher hp (mount+archer combined)

We might also allow basic infantry units to mount on eagles back since they are more or less the same weight and they might be used as a way to transport units over obstacles.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:11 am
by makazuwr32
So. Not only archers but also swordman and warrior at least as well for eagle archers?

Also please no for druids and/or wizards.

Otherwise i agree.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:30 pm
by Alexander82
No need for druids (they will morph into eagles by themselves) and mages would be a bit too op

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:37 pm
by Lynx Shafir
L.
Image


Image

Image

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:45 pm
by Alexander82
Not bad but the thigh is still too long. Make it shorter by a few pixel and it is perfect

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:51 am
by Stratego (dev)
i think the man is too big for an eagle of this size.
smaller man needs to sit there (about 2/3 size) imho

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:08 pm
by Alexander82
I can't deny you're right.

@Lynx Shafir can you do it or do you want me to make an attempt?

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:29 am
by General Brave
Well almost the same size, hopefully don't make it like the elephant archer.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:19 pm
by godOfKings
I tried a different eagle stance considering it should b defensive to protect its rider.... And it was NOT EASY AT ALL...

In case it doesn't look that good I am also posting the original image with a slightly smaller rider

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:14 pm
by General Brave
Is it good enough.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:08 am
by godOfKings
face of archer can b edited, eagle stance is tough

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:00 am
by Alexander82
Since @Stratego (dev) brought up that "problem" I would ask for his opinion.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:09 am
by Stratego (dev)
the archer still seems little big (was it modified to be smaller?), but i let Alexander decide on final design :)

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:18 am
by Alexander82
I also think it is but we should still make the unit that is riding recognizable.

I'd like to try an attempt and check the final result

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:46 pm
by godOfKings
This might b betr

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:16 pm
by General Brave
looks strangely halfway.

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:54 am
by godOfKings
U mean I m half way there to the perfect image? Care to elaborate wat else needs perfecting, the hair style? Or the eagle body?

Re: Eagle Elf Archer/Eagle Quick Archer/Eagle Fire Archer

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:32 am
by makazuwr32
Implemented