Hospitaller - IMPLEMENTED

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Hospitaller - IMPLEMENTED

Post by StormSaint373 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:53 pm

The knights Hospitaller, worked with the Templars and Teutonic knights during the Crusades.

Why not add-in another order?

A crossbowman who can heal and be recruited from the church!

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Re: Hospitaller

Post by Typhoon » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:18 pm

Sounds good another addition to crusader units
Since it's crossbow unit in my opinion it should be
either medium damage medium range
or medium damage long range since crossbows were rather strong weapons
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by samuelch » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:13 am

I just got an idea. How about if all knight orders get zeal aura? Zeal aura will increase all adjacent units spell resistance by +50%.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by makazuwr32 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:51 pm

About aura - no. We don't even have right now working aura from upgrade on missionaries and priests.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by Typhoon » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:14 pm

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More dark one
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:43 pm

Best to just keep it simple.

Recruit from: CHURCH/CATHEDRAL

Cost: 5
Hp: 20
Attack: 7
Range: 5
Armor: 1
Peirce: 1
Vision: 6
Speed: 3
Spell Resistance: 100%
Action per turn: 1

Abitilties: heal (as Templar)

Affected by blacksmith upgrades
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:49 pm

Use same Upgrade as Knight Templar

Knight Hospitaller

Cost: 5
Hp: 25
Attack: 8
Range: 6
Armor: 2
Pierce: 2
Vision: 7
Speed: 3
Spell Resistance: 100%

Abitilties: heal (as Knight Templar)

Affected by blacksmith upgrades.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:25 pm

Lower their range and damage by 1 (both), lower their health by 10, lower their armors (both) by 1.
They are archers, they are not supposed to be meat tanks with ranged attack.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:57 pm

Edited.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:10 pm

Also add that they are affected by blacksmith upgrades.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:39 pm

Edited, again.

An image needs to be done for it,

Like crusader, but black tabbard with white cross (as is the symbol of the order).
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by Typhoon » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:08 am

Improved pictures
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:01 am

Much Better, just needs a bit of improvement on the Crossbow, then I believe that it will be ready!

Right portion of the Crossbow is squished too tight, allow each side to match in length for the best quality.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by Typhoon » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:26 pm

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Changed right part of crossbow a bit and few more pixels
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Changed right part of crossbow a bit and helmet color so now it fits tabbard
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:27 pm

Well Done!

Just fill out the helmet on the upgraded version, seens cut off on one side.

After that, It will be ready!
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by Typhoon » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:45 pm

Here
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:34 pm

Perfect!

Perfectó

Excellent Work!
Well Done!

Sorry, just... It was so well done. I don't think that I would ever be able to do better!
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:34 pm

I believe it's ready, just need Devs to inspect... :oops:
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by Typhoon » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:06 pm

I forgot about leg part of tabard (idk if it's better)
in addition changed shoulder parts
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Meanwhile you could edit your first post with actual stats for both before/after upgrade and images that would make it easier to inspect
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:14 pm

Typhoon you may not realize it yet but, YOU ARE SO AWESOME!!!

YOU CAME UP WITH THE BEST, AND MADE IT EVEN BETTER!!!

You have helped the Hospitaller to come along so well, thank you! :D :D :D
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:18 pm

Hospitaller
StormSaint373 wrote:Best to just keep it simple.

Recruit from: CHURCH/CATHEDRAL

Cost: 5
Hp: 20
Attack: 7
Range: 5
Armor: 1
Peirce: 1
Vision: 6
Speed: 3
Spell Resistance: 100%
Action per turn: 1

Abitilties: heal (as Templar)

Affected by blacksmith upgrades
StormSaint373 wrote:Use same Upgrade as Knight Templar

Knight Hospitaller

Cost: 5
Hp: 25
Attack: 8
Range: 6
Armor: 2
Pierce: 2
Vision: 7
Speed: 3
Spell Resistance: 100%

Abitilties: heal (as Knight Templar)

Affected by blacksmith upgrades.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:18 pm

Sorry, I can't quote images. What do you think?
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:59 am

thoughts? knight without his tunic looks quite weird.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by Typhoon » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:04 am

StormSaint373 wrote:Typhoon you may not realize it yet but, YOU ARE SO AWESOME!!!

YOU CAME UP WITH THE BEST, AND MADE IT EVEN BETTER!!!

You have helped the Hospitaller to come along so well, thank you! :D :D :D
:) Always trying to help
StormSaint373 wrote:Sorry, I can't quote images. What do you think?
I'm not stats expert so I'll leave them to someone else
While there's no need to quote images you can save them and upload again
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:12 pm

Checked stats. They are balanced.

Just needs approval from the dev.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:00 pm

i think that +2 damage is too much for upgrade.
Please lower it by 1.
Otherwise stats are good.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:17 pm

Edited, have a look.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:07 pm

Now they are fine.
Maybe i even will use them when they'll be released.
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Put some numbers, compare to what other races have and so on. Some real info why it must be done.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by StormSaint373 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:14 pm

Sweet! I Know what you mean.
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Re: Hospitaller

Post by COOLguy » Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:04 am

Looks fine. I will ACCEPT it.
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Use same Upgrade as Knight Templar
What does this mean? Isn't this just a unit by itself (not an upgrade)?
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