Carrack IMPLEMENTED

[MightyGuy]

Carrack (Heavy Transport Ship & Battle Ship)
(::::→Big And Heavy Carrack, Vessel Type, Marine Type, Water Type←:::)


A large and heavy capital ship armed with broadside firing cannons. Capable of travelling across the ocean.

History And Information: The first fully ocean going ship in Europe, the Carrack is a four-masted vessel developed in the Mediterranean during the 15th century, and later used throughout Europe. Stable in heavy seas, and roomy enough to carry provisions for long voyages, these sturdy ships are well armed, sporting broadside firing cannon arrays, as well as large compliments of onboard marines.

•Attributes
Can Able To Transport Foot Soldiers.
Use as Battle Ship

[MightyGuy]

It is supposed to be Heavy And Expensive Cost.
STATS:

Cost: 10
HP: 90
Attack: 6
Range: 4
Speed: 3
Sight: 4
Armor: 1
Pierce Armor: 3
Action Turn: 1
Spell Resistance: 100%
Carry Capacity: 4
Builders: Dock, TCs

Bonuses: Same To Other Water Units' Bonuses.

[DoomCarrot]

Attack 6 and range 4 seems a bit weak for a ship with broadside cannons though lol

[MightyGuy]

How about 10 atks and 6 Ranges. Perfect Accuracy. Agree?

[Sunrise Samurai]

It's cannons​, so you need to research ballistics, then gunpowder, then spend 10 turns on this sucker.
10 power
8 range
Accuracy penalty, but it benefits​ from the area damage tech (to simulate several cannons at once)
Bonuses should look like cannon bonuses
Carry capacity 2 (after wagons are considered, that's 6 troops. Doubling that to 12 on one ship is just too much)

[MightyGuy]

Very Awesome! I like your idea! Agree!

Anyone else agree with Sunrise?

After Discussed, Next Discussing, Unit Balancing, This Vs Units, Image, Feedbacks, Opinions, Questions And Ready To Vote! (If Accepted)

[MightyGuy]

Cost: 10
HP: 90
Attack: 8
Range: 6
Speed: 3
Sight: 4
Armor: 1
Pierce Armor: 3
Action Turn: 1
Spell Resistance: 100%
Carry Capacity: 2
Builders: Dock, TCs

Bonuses: Same Bonuses On Cannon Unit.

[LordOfAles]

I would give it 6 sight, because with 4 sight he can shoot only 4 tiles away

[MightyGuy]

Cost: 10
HP: 90
Attack: 8
Range: 6
Speed: 3
Sight: 7
Armor: 1
Pierce Armor: 3
Action Turn: 1
Spell Resistance: 100%
Carry Capacity: 2
Builders: Dock, TCs
Bonuses: Same Bonuses On Cannon Unit.

Any suggestions? questions? we will proceeding to the next stage

[LordOfAles]

Nice! And possibly 4 speed?

[MightyGuy]

I think 3 speed is balance, because it is heavy(high health and 1 armor), can hold 2 units (e.g Wagon)

[LordOfAles]

Oh yeah point made

[godOfKings]

How about this,
Carry capacity 4 (but cannot carry sieges or wagons, only infantry and mounts)
Damage:20 (same as cannon ship)
Has area effect (many cannon balls)
Range: 6 (broadside cannons cant be lifted up to raise range so shorter range)

[godOfKings]

By workers, it could initially cost 31 turns, which reduces to 21 turns with ambidextria

[godOfKings]

And since it is kind of a late game unit, most players would have built many cannon towers around the sea so I think its quite balanced, but its just my opinion

[LordOfAles]

I think MightyGuy's stats is more reasonable. It is supposed to be like Armed Transport, not specialised in fighting, but can transport troops and fend off some raiders

[godOfKings]

Well just my opinion, but a ship with such high health carrying two wagons which could also carry 6 rams and 12 infranty, that's like 20 units in one structure that is also hard to destroy and when it reaches shore the wagons can also reach deeper inside, may be as deep as where the opponent has made his first blacksmith , its like the ultimate siege engine that makes siege towers pale in comparison which has only 1 speed (although if wagons could fly from them but I didn't use siege towers that much so don't yet know wat can be garrisoned in them)

[LordOfAles]

Or simply make that only flesh and blood units can enter...

[godOfKings]

*off topic* wow every single forumer here is orange

[godOfKings]

Well being able to move such a giant deep into the enemy defences also requires a lot of strategic planning and carrying 20 units with 6 rams will take a long time to make too so I guess we should just keep mighty guy's stats, use it in battle and then see if it balances well

[Lawrence]

A big ship with a few rows of cannons, very slow
Campaign Hero?

[makazuwr32]

We have one Cannon ship.
Make new name at least for it.

[Belfry777]

what is the historical reason of this?

[Lawrence]

At sea battles, there where bigger and smaller ship, this is the biggest ship where the general is

[samuelch]

Flagship?

[makazuwr32]

In medieval times there was no "big" and "small" ships.
They became to be as a thing in 16 century.

[StormSaint373]

Ships of the line? The colonial ships that managed up to 72 guns per broadside type ship? *Gulps*

Like an improvement to the cannon ship? What do you mean?

Medieval ships were mainly transportation for the armies.

[makazuwr32]

Like an improvement to the cannon ship?

Medieval ships were mainly transportation for the armies.

1. Please no.
2. Exactly.

[StormSaint373]

So you want a ship with high carry cap, but also a decent amount of firepower to protect itself right?

[Belfry777]

Do you mean a Carrack? Which were in the 1600's and did not get cannons till later.