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Actually, African elephants are bigger than indians. These war beasts were employed by hannibal against rome. Later, rome would employ them too

Cost 4
Leaving 4
Hp 130
Attack 14
Range 0
Armor 1/3
Speed 3
Sight 5
Action/turn 2
C R 100%

Bash
Power 14
Range 1
Area damage

Tower javelin thrower
Power 7
Range 4
+50% v foot meele, archer
+100% v mounted

Increase leaving too 4-5 turns

SirPat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:52 pm Increase leaving too 4-5 turns

I am more worried about sprite
That is an small detail, i can change it whenever
I did it already

Once I had some idea abut changing elephants - maybe my image would prove useful for it.

Of course it is.
Do u think tower should be placed?
Maybe it could be more usefull for Seleucid Cathaphract Elephant
The clothes it wears on his back could be the armor they weared

Its just an idea, anyway it is usefull

Sure - image can be used there too.
Tower can be placed, but it really depends on the final look if it's acceptable.

Also - I just now found out proposed stats have 2 actions - it's obviously too OP.
Should be 1.

Endru1241 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:19 pm Also - I just now found out proposed stats have 2 actions - it's obviously too OP.
Should be 1.

I already said something about that on the other topic
1 for bash
1 for javelin
Each one has 1 turn coldown, then u cant use one of them twice a turn

0 range for not to use 14 base power attack twice

Does this has a possibility to be implemented?
New suggestwd stats
Cost 4
Leaving 3
Hp 125
Attack 14
Range 1
Armour 2/2
Speed 2
CR 20%
bonuses of elephant
Ability: javelin throw: power 5, range 2, slight bonuses against infantry...

Basically similar to persian elephant

I think actually African Elephants are larger.

My bad, u r right!
Edited stats

it's just something that strikes me, how the unit shoots javelins if the unit's sprite doesn't have someone assembled holding a javelin or a spear anyway.

The iamge i posted is the reference source and the sprite endru shared is an elephant that can be used to complete this unit Sprite

Btw, since we are getting more roman units and ghe foman castrum this unit could be produced there i think, actually i think all ancient mercenariesshould be aviable to be produced at hellenic and roman structures...

That elephant sprite looks weird imo. The current one is far better realistic in figure.

Its the legs, they could b made better, also needs a skirmisher tower

rebalance and rename: mercenary mahout

Cost 4
Leaving 5
Hp 120
Attack 20
Range 1
Armor 2/1
Speed 2
Sight 5
C R 100%

i want to reserve african elephant for carthage

My image was actually made from slightly changing real photo of african savanna elephant.

Btw. I have read something relevant.
Apparently whenever we find Mediterranean or Middle East reference to african elephants - those in 99% times meant african forest elephant and not african bush elephant.
The difference is mainly in size.
African forest elephant - 2.4m, 3 tonnes
Asian elephant (Indian) - 2.75m, 3.5 tonnes
African bush elephant (savanna) - 3.2m, 6 tonnes

So e.g. Cartage would only have access to elephants actually close to 20% smaller than known indian elephants.

Yeah, i read the same yesterday...
Thats why i wrote that african elpehants would be cheaper but worse (because they were smaller)

Actually they eventualy got bush elephants but kinda later, when they got mahouts from other kingdoms...

This idea is just a generci mercenary mahout, one that roman could hire, or even hellenic kingdoms could.