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Pikeman IMPLEMENTED
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:57 pm
by StormSaint373
Description: Equipped with a very long pole, much longer than that of a normal spear, pikemen were known to make excellent formations to bar cavalry charges, and keep other soldiers away long enough to have other units to deal with them.
Pikeman
Cost: 3
Hp: 13/15
Att: 5/7
Rng: 2
Armor: 1/0,2/1
Speed: 3
Action/Turn: 1
Vision: 4
SR: 0
Bonuses: 450% vs cavalry, 750% vs elephants
@Endru1241 ,let's bring this idea to life!
I've heard you mention this B4, better to bring this about, than to let it to be forgotten.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:48 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
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Here i come haha
You have seen my topocs storm?
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:30 pm
by StormSaint373
Yes, I've seen. . . Many. Lol.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:52 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
Do you like the designs and proposals in general?
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:02 pm
by StormSaint373
Not bad, the imgs could do with some polishing...
Maybe edit from standard AoS units like spearman and Broad swordsman, so the Armor can match.
From there, we can see what to do next.
1st tier: Edit from Spearman
2nd & 3rd: Edit from Halberdier, for 3 give (a little) gold like Man At Arms
Or post Spearman and Halberdier img, and I'll make tiers.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:38 am
by Endru1241
I wonder about this.
I have imagined pike being longbow countrpart, so 1 upgrade only.
Image more based on AoF pike units weapons.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:50 am
by StormSaint373
Ok, edited.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:59 am
by Gral.Sturnn
Well, i nade this sprite not so long ago
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:10 pm
by Morningwarrior
Well can the damage swap to 5 and bonus damage increase to 500% and 800%to big mounted.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:35 pm
by StormSaint373
@Endru1241 ? What do you think?
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:14 pm
by Endru1241
I think damage should be 5, 7. With the same 450% bonus. After adding real pikeman, spearman line can get some rebalance.
HP or armor may be a little higher, but lower on piercing (1/0, 2/1) - pikeman were after all weak against missiles.
About images - I was thinking of adding something similar to current spearman upgrades. Maybe add some armor and polish the image.
Based on this:
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:34 pm
by StormSaint373
Stats updated.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:04 am
by Morningwarrior
Maybe the posse of unit can be switch,not same aparence with a long pike.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:24 am
by Endru1241
Feel free to do it - I only posted a base. If it would retain similarities enough to be seen as part of the rest of base units - it's okay.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:46 pm
by SirPat
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Re: Pikeman
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:47 pm
by Morningwarrior
Well,i suposes to change helmet aparence and the body.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:26 pm
by StormSaint373
@Endru1241 , you mentioned this imgs need polishing,...
How do you mean?
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:08 pm
by Endru1241
I would add him a little more bulky armor and different helmet - maybe just copy-paste (with corrections) crossbowman and arbalest.
It's actually more for the sake of making a little different appearance from main spearman line.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:34 pm
by StormSaint373
@@Endru1241 , Sorry this took awhile... Lack of connection.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:37 pm
by StormSaint373
Added leg... Subtracted from torso.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:02 pm
by godOfKings
Nice
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:32 pm
by Endru1241
They look great.
I think it's time to add them to the game.
It's only a shame we still have not enough cavalry to make them even more important.
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:02 am
by DreJaDe
Since this unit is already on the implementation stage, I want to suggest things for the unit.
Why not a small shield like the shield used by a Macedonian Phalangite
Also, since I'm on this why not add Macedonian Phalangite as a unit for the game or do I have to make separate topic?
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:10 pm
by L4cus
Some pikemen used a small shield. Tye regular pikemen sidn't used. Ancient pikemen and swiss pikemen did it. They could be different units
Re: Pikeman
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:53 pm
by Endru1241
Ok. Put in the pack.
Re: Pikeman IMPLEMENTED
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:35 am
by L4cus
I have allready tasted the actualization. I think pikeman and its upgrade speed should be 2. Maybe make an ability like forced march, rising its speed to 3 for some turns, then back to use it when gets coldown.