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Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:36 am
by Joddy El Campeador
Using axe to hack enemies and crush buildings
it costs 2 turns to create it
only can be created in barrack
HP 25,attack 15, speed 3, no armor (can be affected by blacksmith upgrade tech of course)
Have bonuses againts infantry 75% and building 125%

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:19 am
by makazuwr32
for 2 turn unit he has extremly big stats. waaaaay to big ones.

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:26 am
by Joddy El Campeador
Okay... you can change some stats or its costs to avoid the overpower symptoms
how if we change the attack to 6 or 7?

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:28 am
by makazuwr32
then he will be too similar to the celtic warriors.
also current axe thrower will be completely rebalanced soon.

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:25 pm
by Lynx Shafir
Actually a "barbar" unit with power range 1 and 3 cost wud be cool

May as a special nation unit.

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:13 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
what looks should we aim for?

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:14 am
by godOfKings
Sounds similar to viking berserker or the zwiehander with power range, I think axe can have high bonus on wagons and other wooden units though

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:49 pm
by StormSaint373
Actually, berserker doesn't have power range...

Just berserk, and a form of self healing.

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:12 am
by Moh556
Dont compare national units with normal units .
Normals most be more! This axe man is nice idea we can put this in new update beside new H. battle and units (new persian and greek units)
this axe man havs an ability:
Ability name:HIT FROM ABOVE
this ability helps axe man to hit shield and armored units nicely .. units like defender . Roman legion. Spartan. And others also i like GOD OF KINGS idea about wooden things . Hit from above ability 'sā€Œ symbol is a war axe

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:14 am
by Moh556
A war axe like this
Image

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:16 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
Id prefer something like this
Image

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:32 pm
by Moh556
Yes . This is nice too
leave the axes and focus on unit :lol: :lol:

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:58 pm
by HugoTheUseles
1 or 2 handed axe?

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:13 am
by Lynx Shafir
Two handed

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:18 am
by Stratego (dev)
i changed the two pictures to be external links instead of attachment uploads. (simply searched to the image on net and linked the first result)

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:34 pm
by Lynx Shafir
Axes were often cheaper than swords and considerably more available.
The Scandinavian bearded" axes or "skeggox" (so named for their trailing lower blade edge which increased cleaving power and could be used to catch the edge of an opponent's shield and pull it down, leaving the shield-bearer vulnerable to a follow-up blow). Viking axes were wielded with one hand or two, depending on the length of the plain wooden haft.
  • 1
    Danish Axeman


Great to weaken enemy armors
(1handed axe -long ,shield)

Cost 3 Nordic Hall

Hp 15
Attack 10(standard bonus to building, 25%infantry,cheap archer pikeman)
Passive :Armor break on hit - 1/1 armor
Speed 3
Arm 1/1
S res 0%
  • 2.Viking D Axeman
(2handed ,2edge)
Best at taking down infantry, disrupting formations

Cost 4 Nordic Hall
Hp 18

Attack 14(trample) - 50%bonus to infantry ,
Power range 1
Action 1
Arm 2/0
Speed 3
Spell res 30%
Skill :whirlwide
8dmg


Both affected by blacksmith' armor and sword upgrades.

images coming soon

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:56 pm
by StormSaint373
Aren't hp a little low for melee units?

Maybe

1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp

Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:17 pm
by Gral.Sturnn

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:54 pm
by godOfKings
StormSaint373 wrote: ā†‘
Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:56 pm
Aren't hp a little low for melee units?

Maybe

1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp

Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...
Even with these HP, maceman still deals 30 dmg and kills both, how about they also have 4 speed considering they r lightly armored, then lynx's HP is acceptable

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:51 pm
by Lynx Shafir
godOfKings wrote: ā†‘
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:54 pm
StormSaint373 wrote: ā†‘
Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:56 pm
Aren't hp a little low for melee units?

Maybe

1 hander (24)hp
2 hander (20)hp

Otherwise, they'll just use maceman...
Even with these HP, maceman still deals 30 dmg and kills both, how about they also have 4 speed considering they r lightly armored, then lynx's HP is acceptable
We all know mace man is the ultimate weapon :)

I'm not against rising hp a bit consider they are exclusive units


For speed boost I'm not sure (May with a group tech)
Therefore weak to arrows anyway

If snow and hill(if impleamented ) terrain
Gets movement penalty this two may be immune. :?

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:58 pm
by godOfKings
Standard Viking strategy against archer is charge with a shield and throw axe at close range like a skirmisher, all their weapons and armors r designed as light as possible to allow mad rush, wearing leather vests

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:13 pm
by godOfKings
May b the 4 turn one can have higher HP with 3 speed, if legion is armored tank, this should of assault with area dmg

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:31 pm
by Lynx Shafir
3quixk sprite

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:45 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
That looks really awesome!!!!!! Lynx you nailed it, bit maybe perhaps make the shield more round and bigger? You know vikings had very beautiful round shields, perhaps you can try

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:50 pm
by godOfKings
They were beautiful but not that big in proportion to human size, lynx's looks fine.

They r mainly to cover head and above waist area from incoming volleys of arrows, not that effective against crossbow bolts or when flanked

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:09 pm
by Gral.Sturnn

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:47 pm
by Puss_in_Boots
I wouldn't take a well done drawing as reality. Maybe search for a museum model instead, I expect those to be more historically accurate.

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:54 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
This illustration was part of a larger series of historically accurate illustrations depicting the process of the anglo saxon invasion and the creation of england even though the argument is totally valid.

Heres a surviving example of a "viking" shield even though its no in great shape but there are more reproductions on the same website

https://sonsofvikings.com/blogs/history ... toric-look

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:59 pm
by Gral.Sturnn
In this other website if you scroll enough you will notice images depicting men carriying said shield in different manners, here you can see its size and proportions more closely related to the human body.

http://www.hurstwic.org/history/article ... hields.htm

Re: Axeman (Not Axe Thrower)

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:07 am
by Puss_in_Boots
I see now, they were able to cover the knees and neck in some stances.