Early Romans and Etruscans - IMPLEMENTED (partially)

[SirPat]

Already in game but untrainable and Strategy guy you should check first if the Idea is already in game or already on the forums try using the search function for searching the forums and use the map editor in game to see all units it is found at the others tab in game and, Strategy guy Welcome to the forums

[Strategy guy]

Ok thx

[Morningwarrior]

I think is not a bad ideia.

[L4cus]

There is allready a topic for make early roman units able to play with. So, u could post there to discuss it again since nobody post on it.
Also, since this is a topic allready exist, @Stratego (dev) u should eliminate it...

[Stratego (dev)]

please link here the other so i can merge them.

[L4cus]

Here
https://www.androidutils.com/forum/view ... 74921f1351

[Morningwarrior]

But we not forget about the handles a roman light foot scouts.
Here some updated ideias
Hp:15
Atk:5
Armor:0/1
Speed:4
Actions:1
Turns to produce:2
Range:1
Sight:6
Can be produced only in roman garrison
Bonus similar to swordsman but he have %25 more damage to only foot archers.

[L4cus]

Actually, scout units at roman arnies were skirmishers and light cav with some few melee soldiers. Anyway, 15 hp is too much for a foot scout unit (light cav have 18?) Medieval swordman has 0/0 armor, so it doesnt make sense foot scout hvaing 0/1.
Sight and cost is fine to me. But a scout unit doesnt have an anti-biukdings role, so bonus similar to swordman doesnt make sense. Maybe 25% v foot archers and 50% v light foot melee would be more apropiate.

[SirPat]

Make it a fully pledged skirmisher with bonuses but not so much p.armor

[L4cus]

Or just make the velites an scout unit... or maybe a scout units pack, footmelee, ranged(velites) and cav...maybe it is too much...

[SirPat]

How about make them velites light infantry with melee attack and stuff but give them ability to throw spear with skirmisher bonuses instead of archer bonuses so that they would act as light infantry but can trow a spear and also give him 4 speed to be able to skirmish and trow spear would have 0cooldown to show that he may attack in range or attack on melee whenever he wants tp make him look like light infantry/skirmisher type of unit

[L4cus]

Mmh, i dont know if its possible give spell some bonuses... if its not, them it would almost useless because its melee attack shouldnt be too high.
Actually common skirmisher should have a melee attack, but since this is a game...i would just leave it with a ranged attack.

[DreJaDe]

Mmh, i dont know if its possible give spell some bonuses... if its not, them it would almost useless because its melee attack shouldnt be too high.
Actually common skirmisher should have a melee attack, but since this is a game...i would just leave it with a ranged attack.

It's possible. There are already some spell with bonuses.

It's useless to make skirmisher melee. They would just get destroyed by swordsman.

[DreJaDe]

I tried

[L4cus]

Well, it looks great, beside we allready have a velites version in the game. We were supossed to make stats to include it in the game, balanced stats...it could be a skin or the default version and old one a skin

[SirPat]

Yrah looks good

[Endru1241]

This is the topic, that should be revived to discuss hastatii, princeps and triarii stats.
Btw. I haven't even noticed velite new skin. It should be replaced and old one added to ancestors.

[L4cus]

hastati:
2 turn
hp 13
Attack 4
Ramge 1
Armor 0/1
Speed 3
Sight 4
Low Anti cav bonuses

princeps
3 turns
hp 22
attack 8
Range1
Armor 2/2
Speed 3
Sight 4
Bonuses similar to legionary
javelin ability

triarii:
4 turns
hp 22
attack 8
Range 1
armor 3/2
Speed 3
Sight 4
Bonuses similar to hastati

Velites
2 turns
hp 8
Atttack 5
Range 3
Armor 0/3
Speed 4
Sight 5

Tech: to sword hastati
Cost 2 turns
Replace spear hastatus for a sword version with a javelin ability
Hp 16
Attack 6
Range 1
Armor 0/1
Speed 3
Sight 4
Bonuses similar to swordman
Javelin ability

[DreJaDe]

I wonder if there could be a unique trait of romans where if it's possible.

This roman units would have a timer modifier which if it ended they would upgrade or their more elite version.

[L4cus]

I think thats possible with spells...i am not sute though

[Morningwarrior]

We have another big ideia here

[Morningwarrior]

vu pu are thinking of adding new praetorian troops ?, like cavalry or archers ?, even chariots!

[L4cus]

i think not for now, its up to endru anyway...roman were not known by having a fantatic cav, so they relied on mercenaries and auxiliars

[DreJaDe]

I tried to remake the hastati

[DreJaDe]

I tried remaking Triarii

Now that I think about it, they're like just an upgrade of each other.

Since hastati is even used as heavy infantry. Wouldn't an idea of one single unit with upgrades a better for the Triarii, princepes and the hastatis.

Though, I would really like the idea of a timer modifier that would upgrade the roman units when the timer goes off.

[Morningwarrior]

i think not for now, its up to endru anyway...roman were not known by having a fantatic cav, so they relied on mercenaries and auxiliars

Ahhh about that...5 cavalry in total is the,auxiliary,centurion,dromedaili,the basic cavalry and the pretorian(he have right?)
Ohh and the roman chariot of course.

[L4cus]

It fits, since late empire used them. But if we add chariot for romes, we should add cheiroballista too...and idk if endru might want to add them mmmh

[Morningwarrior]

cheirobalista?

[Badnorth]

cheirobalista?

Hand Ballista said by Wikipedia.
It seems like a small ballista that was carried and used by foot.

[Endru1241]

I think he ment carrobalista