Skirmisher redesign IMPLEMENTED

[Endru1241]

Current Skirmisher line images aren't fitting well. He's too small and facing front on every image.
I made new ones.
What do you think?

[Patrol3110]

Only thing I would point out is that the shield may be too small, other than that it looks good, way better than original.

[LordOfAles]

Shields are fine. It just needs better shading, that's all.

[LordOfAles]

Something like this:

A little zoom in and there is a significant difference.

[Endru1241]

Here shaded:

[LordOfAles]

This is better, thank you and good work.

[Puss_in_Boots]

Incredible, I was just thinking about redesigning them yesterday so that players don't think they're lame. Your work here is truly amazing!

[Puss_in_Boots]

@Stratego (dev)

[Endru1241]

There was something wrong with team coloring.

[patroid]

Hi,
fixed shading and teamcolor.

patroid

[Stratego (dev)]

something not fitting to me on these images - everyone likes better than current ones ingame?

[patroid]

Hi,
well the position and pose the character is in seems a bit unnatural.

Patroid

[Stratego (dev)]

i see these ingame (idk. where are yours from):
and i pretty much like the current ones, especially their shileds.
and i agree the legs a little weird, but fixing legs would be enough for me
(i say this because the drastical image changes result complaints from players and forumers lol )

but i am open to suggestions:
- who suggest the new ones ? (DRASTICALLY_NEW)
- and who suggest only the small fix of existant ones ? (POLISH_EXISTING)

[patroid]

Hi,
well one of those i had was the originaly the rest were already redesign ides.

i played a bit with refining the old image and using the new one / fixing it or even combining them.
anything there u like? if not i would do a 2 new attemps. One where i practically change the angle to be 3d of the current desing
and one new historical attemp.

or we simply decide we dont wanna change and i do some pretty simple polishing on the current image

[StormSaint373]

Whooooaaaa!!!! Pretty cool!

This is indeed a hard decision... But in my opinion, I prefer the new skirmishers look with that polished shield (old design)

Don't forget tier 3

[makazuwr32]

I like more look of completely new skirmishers.

[patroid]

Hi,
Sooooooo

what now?

Patroid

[godOfKings]

I like all 4 at right of patroid's. The muscle of new design wasn't natural, by covering it under cloth, patroid perfected it.

[Endru1241]

I'm actually fine with any of them except the first two and the ones looking like current original at the center.
Current ones looks like a halfling and while we're shortening too tall units, we should also change ones too short.
The first two have frontal position and look kinda like slinger/old axe thrower and they don't/didn't fit imho (different art style ?).

Short explanation behind weapon look designed by me originally:
Most people often confuses three very different weapons
1. Spear - one of the most ancient weapons - basically a sharpened stick. Used for melee battle. Could be thrown in times of need (just the same as sword e.g.). Most commonly with the length of a little over 2 meters.
2. Javelin - a type of a shortened spear designed to be thrown (shifted weight closer to the head). Poor melee weapon, but still could be used as that. Could have as little as 80cm length.
3. Pike - very long spear - 3 meters at minimum, while longest could reach over 7 meters.

So comparing pikeman and skirmisher images I would like to see clear length difference in weapons.

@Stratego (dev)

[Puss_in_Boots]

I like patroid's 7th image from left to right.

[Stratego (dev)]

ok lets put in the new appearance! (i hope there will be no topic about why we did it lol )

[Endru1241]

OK, putting these (my images polished based by patroid's):

[Stratego (dev)]

normal and elite is not that different, can we make some extra something maybe on shield?
here how AOk did:
https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Elite_Skirmisher

[Endru1241]

I though metal rimming will be more noticable.

Will this help?

[Stratego (dev)]

i still dont see, what about the shield:

1st level only wood
2nd level is chess like metal-wood (4 quarters)
3rd level full metal

?

[Endru1241]

Renamed and added base one for better comparison:

[Stratego (dev)]

thanks! i like it! gooo!