Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by General Brave » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:02 am

I wouldn't mind having a match with you Detros, what I heard and what you say. You are a experience and plan strategies. I may very well lose, but who wouldn't accept a challenge.
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:26 am

General Brave wrote:I wouldn't mind having a match with you Detros, what I heard and what you say. You are a experience and plan strategies. I may very well lose, but who wouldn't accept a challenge.
Thanks. I have noted already your previous message but I can't offer much activity in other matches while I am actively playing in this tourney. So didn't respond there but I was going to get back to you when I am done here. But if it a smaller map and you don't mind to wait few days sometimes while I first prepare my tourney turn, we may get to our match sooner.

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Post by General Brave » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:14 pm

I accept your proposal, I'll let you choose the map and we can begin.
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:11 am

Our score is 1193/2587 at the start of COOLguy's 17th turn. So I have 117 % more points than him.

Just to show ballistae are now used bit sooner when you no more need Ballistics for them.
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2 siege workshops and 1 advancements centre were lost in the attack while I am now basically offering some "cheap" points to gain.

Thanks to considerable luck I managed to steal Flight last turn and Shielder to Defender techs this turn, when capturing the southernmost town. So south is calm again. On the other hand, I had to fall back in the west for now, before I lost more than just one mongolian archer there.
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My score is over double limit now and I am now waiting for COOLguy's response turn. If my score is less than double at the end of his turn we surely should continue. Even if it is not but if COOLguy wants to continue (and if other players in tourney don't mind too much) we should continue, at least for few more turns.I would like to continue because I think this strike on COOLguy's factories should have secured my victory. Mainly, if my notes are right, thanks to that advancements centre working only for 5 turns...

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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:58 pm

Yeah. In my experience, the game is usually over once you start hitting factories. Even if it costs​ you a lot more troops, taking out their production typically ends their chances.
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Post by Detros » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:45 pm

It has been like three days now since I have finished my 17th turn. This is not usual as I think COOLguy has managed to finish all his turns in less than 12 hours so far. But it seems he has visited forums recently so he should be OK. He is probably just counting every damage value or preparing something nefarious with siege units.

Just so you know there is no progress to report.

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Post by General Brave » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:27 pm

I have received your invitation, good choice for a map.
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Post by DoomCarrot » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:40 pm

aLol if he starts under the point limit, you can claim victory in the tourney if you so choose.

However, it may be time to see if duneix is still alive lol.

Duneix? Hello? Your game might be coming up soon. :P
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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:40 am

Lol the only problem with AoS/AoF tournaments. After the first couple rounds, we end up with waiting players we simply hope stick around until they can play again. Unfortunately, they sometimes disappear.
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Post by General Brave » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:21 am

Gone without a trace.
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Post by COOLguy » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:43 pm

I'm afraid that I must announce terrible news. I have been defeated by the double points rules. In this case, I have been soundly out maneuvered in tactics.

The first 10 or so turns were all about positioning. I invested my everything in collecting more towns than Detros, however, because of the map, he was able to seize the same amount and greater territory. He positioned himself for techs and I invested in a small defense army and siege. Soon after I made a grave miscalculation in the southern towns and overextended myself. Detros was quick to overrun the southern and eastern portions. I had defenses and siege coming online but it was too late to prevent double points.

Detros was a great tactician - almost as if he knew what I was producing in order to overrun me.
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Post by Detros » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:09 pm

COOLguy wrote:I'm afraid that I must announce terrible news. I have been defeated by the double points rules. In this case, I have been soundly out maneuvered in tactics.

The first 10 or so turns were all about positioning. I invested my everything in collecting more towns than Detros, however, because of the map, he was able to seize the same amount and greater territory. He positioned himself for techs and I invested in a small defense army and siege. Soon after I made a grave miscalculation in the southern towns and overextended myself. Detros was quick to overrun the southern and eastern portions. I had defenses and siege coming online but it was too late to prevent double points.

Detros was a great tactician - almost as if he knew what I was producing in order to overrun me.
Thanks for the game. Looking back and calculation various possibilities I think you could have actually manage to capture that south central town with your cavalries if you have used the south starting town and not the east one to train one of them and then rushed Sword Mastery ... but that is a change in turn 1 to hopefully win a battle in turn 10, so meh. If you have managed to slow my progress for few more turns my units could have been massacred by your siege party ... though good luck getting through all those cyan fortresses. The only direct misstep on your part I noticed was attacking my halberdier with crossbowman while standing next to it when you could have first move and then shoot. That counterattack injury helped me to clear your south army. I think you could have used moving out of your corner bit sooner because you filled nearly every tile with factories and then lost tempo moving all those workers to somewhere where they have enough space to build. Good plan with shielders in towers with crossbowman nearby, that's a good hard point.

And yes, your production was one of the things I was keeping track of. And I think I have managed to guess right enough up to turn 14 or so, then it got bit fuzzy. I have finished my turn 18 so your north siege workshops are probably working on catapults (4 turns left) and you are going to get Master Archery 2 next turn. If you are going to have that Blacksmith by then...

Issue with duneix: "Last visited: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:47 pm".

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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:20 pm

Detros wrote: Issue with duneix: "Last visited: Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:47 pm".

Uh oh. That's a big problem.

Great game though. I enjoyed seeing it.
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Post by General Brave » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:50 pm

What a nice, long, progressive, game. I'm looking forward for the next battle.
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Post by Detros » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:55 pm

At the start of COOLguy's 18th turn:
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Surprisingly I have lost only ballista and longbowman in the north.
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COOLguy started building a castle last turn. I think he could have been able to finish it just as my forces would have arrived.
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With this match done I may now plan for the one with General Brave.

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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:46 pm

General, prepare to have your rear handed to you. Detros is a rather impressive player.

By the way, I'd like to invite you, Detros, to join the Sunrise Shogunate league. I think once we get more league activity going, we could​ learn a great deal from you​.
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Post by General Brave » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:13 pm

I would like to invite you to the W.M.L, once that I show myself to be a good opponent. If you do not want to join, I'm glad to have you battle with me nevertheless.
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Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:27 pm

Can i invite you, Detros, into my future group?
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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:30 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:Can i invite you, Detros, into my future group?
Just Answer into that topic in my signature.

General Brave wrote:I would like to invite you to the W.M.L, once that I show myself to be a good opponent. If you do not want to join, I'm glad to have you battle with me nevertheless.
:lol:
You both are running VACs. I'm actually interested in his skills for a multiplayer league. You two need to be recruiting for number of votes more than skill lol.
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Post by General Brave » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:51 pm

You are a bit wrong about that, while do we wish to have a bit of power in the ballot. It's too is a league, hence the secondary name.
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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:20 pm

Ahh so you do have intentions on being a rival. I was starting to lose hope on that.
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Post by makazuwr32 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:51 pm

I need for a skill also because i thought about some "Group on Group" games or even tournaments with fixed for each group Race to exclude skill for disbalance searching.
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:57 pm

Thanks for the kind words but I am currently not planning on joining any VACs. And don't praise me that much, please, it seems like I should start giving out autographs or what :D .

About that duneix issue. I see three options
  • PM him, send an e-mail and wait
  • find somebody else who will fight instead of him, possibly picking somebody else for the next match
  • just skip this match
I would personally be for trying to contact duneix, wait a week or two and then just get to the last match to speed this tournament a bit.
At least tamtam12345 is active, hopefully, for now.

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Post by General Brave » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:39 pm

Let me replace him if you need a opponent, it is still a group that plays together, well till we get more members. And anyways, isn't that tamtam12345 have video of the games. I'm pretty sure I remember them like 5 or 6 years ago.
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Post by Sunrise Samurai » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:56 pm

I think we should email him, give it a week, and skip him if he doesn't show. 2 months away isn't a good sign. He might respond to an email though.
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Post by General Brave » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:47 am

There is only hope, and a side order or fries.
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Post by Puss_in_Boots » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:07 am

E-mailing is better than sending PMs.

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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Detros » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:40 pm

Puss_in_Boots wrote:E-mailing is better than sending PMs.

P.S.
I totally thought I would actually beat COOLguy at one point in our game. :)
But you can be notified on new PMs by e-mail. I have sent a PM to duneix and he has responded he will appear here tomorrow.
I am sooner in alphabet but as we have already battled you are the one to pick and create a map this time, duneix. Thanks in advance.

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Post by General Brave » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:50 pm

It seems everything's going smoothly again, except where is Doomcarrot?
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Re: Carrot Cup 2017! --Ongoing--

Post by Sunrise Samurai » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:16 am

MIA. This isn't like him to disappear without a trace. Hopefully he's alright, and just busy.
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