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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by Belfry777 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:52 am

Sprite images? Do you mean all of the individual layers?
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by godOfKings » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:42 am

yes, its the only way the game allows animations, just post all the layers here i will join them
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by godOfKings » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:42 am

Description:The Chinese fire arrow launcher or hwacha can fire a barrage of over a 100 arrows at a time, very useful against swarms of enemies
Cost 6
Requires gun powder tech
HP 20
Atk 20 (arrow type)
Armor 0/6
Range 6
Action 1
Speed 2
Builder: siege workshop, castle

Power range 2
Damage reduction 20% per tile (deals 16 damage to adjacent area, 12 damage to two tiles away from attacked tile)
miss chance: 10% * speed of target

I have used cannoneers as a base and made this a late game unit, with higher area damage in exchange for only archer range, it is more like a ballista on steroids than a slinger on steroids :D
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:25 am

Hm.
I don't like 2 power range for it.
Otherwise looks good.
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by godOfKings » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:27 am

in terms of cost it is exactly equal to a cannoneer, but cannons have 8 range, this has 6, how about 1 action and 2 power range? and should it have some bonus against infantry?
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:41 am

Hm. 2 power range for it if it will have 1 action is fine.
As for bonuses i think it will annigilate any unit with low piercing armor anyway.
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by godOfKings » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:04 pm

the best way to reduce its damage is to hole up 4 workers in a single tc so that only 1 dies, in which case ballista will b more effective than it

it might b especially effective against a huge army of many archers once the archers show their face, like the army u r using and I use against ships, only 2 pierce armor can save them from complete massacre
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by Belfry777 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:33 pm

Here are the images.
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by Belfry777 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:34 pm

And here is the last one that would not go in the last post.
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by godOfKings » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:41 pm

Thanks a lot :D I will join them
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by Belfry777 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:56 am

Okay when can you finish it?
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by godOfKings » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:17 am

Something like this I guess
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by godOfKings » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:27 am

The shadows were messed up from belfry making gif so I will fix it later
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:34 pm

The shadow changes automatically upon duplicated layers. Sorry!
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by godOfKings » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:41 pm

I know, basically u just extend one image to allow space for other layers, like my image size is 160x64, allowing 5 versions of the image to b drawn (I can extend it later to allow more versions) in this way u don't need to wry about shadows, layers or gifs, the game automatically shifts the image in steps of 32 PX right at a time, allowing other versions of the image to b shown at set interval, it is also actually easier to draw, but not easy to see the changes in variants
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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by COOLguy » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:05 pm

Dang guys, you are awesome! I'm putting accepted on this now

Can someone evaluate this one to see if it is a duplicate or if it can be a good unit that is different?
http://www.ageofstrategy.net/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=765
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Re: A machine that shoots 100 arrows at once. - ACCEPTED

Post by godOfKings » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:19 pm

i guess it is same
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Re: A machine that shoots 100 arrows at once. - ACCEPTED

Post by Belfry777 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:30 pm

Another topic revived by the HOJ and continued by the ND.

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Re: New Siege Unit- The Hwacha

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:08 pm

COOLguy wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:05 pm
Dang guys, you are awesome! I'm putting accepted on this now

Can someone evaluate this one to see if it is a duplicate or if it can be a good unit that is different?
viewtopic.php?f=82&t=765
Thats an automatic crossbow infantry idea not a siege machine
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Re: A machine that shoots 100 arrows at once. - ACCEPTED

Post by godOfKings » Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:37 pm

Yes a cho-ku-nu, someone posted idea of it too long time ago, it should b merged with the cho-ku-nu idea then
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Re: A machine that shoots 100 arrows at once. - ACCEPTED

Post by COOLguy » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:35 pm

Ok thanks
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Re: A machine that shoots 100 arrows at once. - ACCEPTED

Post by Belfry777 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:41 pm

No it's different in that this is a cart weapon that is a personal weapon.
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Re: A machine that shoots 100 arrows at once. - ACCEPTED

Post by godOfKings » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:55 pm

I believe this is the Chinese crossbow, actually I think its ready too coolguy will u accept it?

http://www.androidutils.com/forum/viewt ... &hilit=cho
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Re: Hwacha - ACCEPTED

Post by COOLguy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:31 am

Thanks for pointing that out
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Re: Hwacha - ACCEPTED

Post by godOfKings » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:14 pm

BTW I read that hwacha were also used by Koreans in naval to land warfare, basically shooting arrows to enemies on shore from their ships, so once the unit is implemented I want to suggest a tech that gives turtle ships one garrison space, and only allow hwacha to enter

probably the most late tech ever researched, gun powder, plus this tech, plus two 6 turn units that can't b built by workers, however they will b super effective against fire archer ambush in naval warfare

Also this way it can b different from other gun powder units like rebault, which can also b built by workers
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Re: Hwacha - ACCEPTED

Post by godOfKings » Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:37 pm

Final image
godOfKings wrote:Description:The Korean fire arrow launcher or hwacha can fire a barrage of over a 100 arrows at a time, very useful against swarms of enemies
Cost 6
Requires gun powder tech
HP 20
Atk 20 (arrow type)
Armor 0/6
Range 6
Action 1
Speed 2
Builder: siege workshop, castle

Power range 2
Damage reduction 20% per tile (deals 16 damage to adjacent area, 12 damage to two tiles away from attacked tile)
miss chance: 10% * speed of target

I have used cannoneers as a base and made this a late game unit, with higher area damage in exchange for only archer range, it is more like a ballista on steroids than a slinger on steroids :D
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Re: Hwacha - ACCEPTED

Post by samuelch » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:58 pm

It's Korean. Not Chinese.
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Re: Hwacha - ACCEPTED

Post by godOfKings » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:20 pm

The Chinese invented it, while Koreans reengineered it to use it on ships, they kind of had friendly relation I guess, this is y I want to suggest a tech to allow turtle ships to garrison this with one carrying capacity (but only after it is implemented in the first place)


Edit: after further readin, I guess u r right... So I m changing description
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Re: Hwacha - ACCEPTED

Post by Stratego (dev) » Sat May 11, 2019 6:58 pm

putting in!

can someone write a texting?
<string name="UNIT_TXT_HWACHA">...</string>


also currently it has a projetile of the "ballista" can someone make an image for this projectile?
here is ballista to start from.
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Re: Hwacha - ACCEPTED

Post by makazuwr32 » Sat May 11, 2019 11:31 pm

Stratego (dev) wrote:
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<string name="UNIT_TXT_HWACHA">
The Korean fire arrow launcher or hwacha can fire a barrage of over a 100 arrows at a time, very useful against swarms of enemies.</string>
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